[Ed Straker's Car]

MG claims it has had 800 "expressions of interest" from buyers for the EV version of it's ZS compact SUV. the most it's ever had in Britain.
story here ,
MG ZS EV electric SUV to make UK debut this month | Autocar

I know from the other thread on here , some of that interest has already manifested itself into deposits being taken even before its launch .

 

[Marli]

I'm pumping the man maths machine need abou 3k before I can pull the trigger.

 

[Mike in Leeds]

Waiting to see what sort of pcp deals will be available. Nissan sold buckets and buckets of Leaf's simply because the pcp deals were fantastic value for money. If MG really want to sell the ZS EV in high volumes then they'll support the pcp route to market.

It's certainly got my attention with the proposed pricing, whether that translates into good pcp deals is another thing. My leaf pcp ends in April 2020 so I will be watching very closely how things pan out. Can't stomach the thought of paying for petrol again and driving something that sounds like a tractor. Budget will be the driving factor - if EV's continue to be hellishly expensive then i'll have to look at keeping my Leaf longer than I wanted to.

 

[Panda]

Waiting to see what sort of pcp deals will be available. Nissan sold buckets and buckets of Leaf's simply because the pcp deals were fantastic value for money. If MG really want to sell the ZS EV in high volumes then they'll support the pcp route to market.

It's certainly got my attention with the proposed pricing, whether that translates into good pcp deals is another thing. My leaf pcp ends in April 2020 so I will be watching very closely how things pan out. Can't stomach the thought of paying for petrol again and driving something that sounds like a tractor. Budget will be the driving factor - if EV's continue to be hellishly expensive then i'll have to look at keeping my Leaf longer than I wanted to.

Good point. If I was in MG's shoes, I would price high for the RSP and then offer cracking PCP deals with high residuals. They currently have an image issue (most people don't even know they exist and people are negative about Chinese cars as there are so few around), so keeping a higher price can enable them to overcome the quality perception, but good PCP deals will then drive volume.

 

[Sandy]

Good point. If I was in MG's shoes, I would price high for the RSP and then offer cracking PCP deals with high residuals. They currently have an image issue (most people don't even know they exist and people are negative about Chinese cars as there are so few around), so keeping a higher price can enable them to overcome the quality perception, but good PCP deals will then drive volume.

Have you seen the press release, looks like the eZS is going to address many of the things lacking on the regular ICE cooking models. Some level of autonomy and adaptive cruise. At £25k it should sell well without PCP.

 

[Panda]

Have you seen the press release, looks like the eZS is going to address many of the things lacking on the regular ICE cooking models. Some level of autonomy and adaptive cruise. At £25k it should sell well without PCP.

Yes, I did see this, but most people on the FB group seem to be suggesting a price closer to £32K. Some of the things mentioned I think are to get the car to an NCAP 4* rating, which is expected. The current ICE version is a 3*, which even though is better than older cars is a no-go for many people (me included).

The jury is out for me at the moment, I keep remembering that we are in a bubble and are really interested, I am still tempted to part with yet another deposit. But, the average car owner doesn't know that MG even exists, let alone makes EVs. Most people don't like the idea of a Chinese car (I have no issues and it was the same for Japanese, Korean and Czech cars in the past and look where they are). Finally there is brand snobbery/signalling, MG is a low price brand and will fight hard to get in a higher bracket.

Look at their current range. They have one of the lowest priced SUVs in the UK (I think that Dacia is lower) and only sold 4,441 across the whole range in 2018. They are growing, but off a very small base.

 

[Sandy]

The current ICE version is a 3*, which even though is better than older cars is a no-go for many people (me included).

But thats only because of lane departure, and emergency braking tech not being available on ICE version. All of which are in the EV version.

 

[Panda]

But thats only because of lane departure, and emergency braking tech not being available on ICE version. All of which are in the EV version.

Thats what I said in the post, but probably not very well.

 

[Sandy]

Thats what I said in the post, but probably not very well.

Didn't see you mention any of that.

The fact the current ICE ZS is 3 * is still probably higher than the Zoe 5 * rating which is from 2012 (before all the NCAP additions).

 

[29705]

Didn't see you mention any of that.

The fact the current ICE ZS is 3 * is still probably higher than the Zoe 5 * rating which is from 2012 (before all the NCAP additions).

I’d suggest taking a look at the NCAP report (below) - The reason it scores poorly is partly due to poor passenger protection during a collision. It isn’t particularly good.

The reason other Chinese makes aren’t know here is because they can’t be homologated due to their safety standards being lower than those in the EU.

Chinese manufacturing churns stuff out at a rate of knots with cost being the primary concern over safety or environmental impact.
There’s also China’s treatment of its own people to consider and its foreign policy.

We’re not exactly vegan, wooden-shoe wearing greenies, but at home we’ve recently made cutting down on buying Chinese manufactured stuff, produced at huge cost to the environment, as much of a priority as cutting down on buying plastic stuff. Neither is particularly easy!

In short, the list of reasons not to buy a Chinese car is long!

Official MG ZS safety rating

 

[buck eejit]

I’d suggest taking a look at the NCAP report (below) - The reason it scores poorly is partly due to poor passenger protection during a collision. It isn’t particularly good.

The reason other Chinese makes aren’t know here is because they can’t be homologated due to their safety standards being lower than those in the EU.

Chinese manufacturing churns stuff out at a rate of knots with cost being the primary concern over safety or environmental impact.
There’s also China’s treatment of its own people to consider and its foreign policy.

We’re not exactly vegan, wooden-shoe wearing greenies, but at home we’ve recently made cutting down on buying Chinese manufactured stuff, produced at huge cost to the environment, as much of a priority as cutting down on buying plastic stuff. Neither is particularly easy!

In short, the list of reasons not to buy a Chinese car is long!

Official MG ZS safety rating

I wont have that Luxury!!

Its my Pocket that dictates to me what Car or Product I buy, and this one is going to be cheaper than anything else out there atm

 

[Sandy]

We’re not exactly vegan, wooden-shoe wearing greenies, but at home we’ve recently made cutting down on buying Chinese manufactured stuff, produced at huge cost to the environment, as much of a priority as cutting down on buying plastic stuff. Neither is particularly easy!

Can I ask why you bought the famously made of plastic i3?

 

[Free charge addict]

What’s the ‘Chinese stuff you’ve stopped buying that is produced at huge cost to the environment’?
Also how can I tell if the manufacture of a Chinese car like an MG e ZS has greater environmental impact than the production of an i3/Leaf/Tesla etc - is there a database?
Thanks.