[Johnold]

Hi
I an considering the purchase of a Mini Countryman Classic PHEV

I have a couple of questions that I hope forum members can answer for me

Most on my journeys will be less than 15 miles, but on occasions I take longer journeys of about 150

My query is that without having the assistance of the electric motor what the performance (0 to 60) is likely to be, also the likely mpg.

The other query , and I appreciate this is dependent on a number of factors, is the likely cost of insurance

Thanks in anticipation

John

 

[Drewby80]

My query is that without having the assistance of the electric motor what the performance (0 to 60) is likely to be, also the likely mpg.

I had a BMW 225xe the countryman is basically the same car in drag.

The answer to your question is that if you drive it in comfort mode they feel a bit asthmatic when the battery is traction battery is low compared to having > 10% charge.

This is helped greatly by flicking to sport mode but they aren’t especially efficient once the battery is low.

Expect circa 40mpg of you drive it carefully when the HV battery is flat.

You won’t get 15 miles out of the first gen countryman with the circa 7kW battery in winter even with the heater off.

You will probably just about do it in summer though.

I didn’t own mine for long enough to comment on how badly the battery degrades as it ages but I haven’t heard great reports about them.

The second gen cars have battery capacity of around 11kW As memory serves, I can’t comment on this one but I believe they advertise that these can do over 30 miles fully charged, whatever BMW quote knock 20% off that and that is closer to real world reality.

They also aren’t especially reliable as they age and if something goes wrong expect a very large bill from BMW to fix it.

If you are planning to buy a used one with no warranty be very careful.

 

[Johnold]

I had a BMW 225xe the countryman is basically the same car in drag.

The answer to your question is that if you drive it in comfort mode they feel a bit asthmatic when the battery is traction battery is low compared to having > 10% charge.

This is helped greatly by flicking to sport mode but they aren’t especially efficient once the battery is low.

Expect circa 40mpg of you drive it carefully when the HV battery is flat.

You won’t get 15 miles out of the first gen countryman with the circa 7kW battery in winter even with the heater off.

You will probably just about do it in summer though.

I didn’t own mine for long enough to comment on how badly the battery degrades as it ages but I haven’t heard great reports about them.

The second gen cars have battery capacity of around 11kW As memory serves, I can’t comment on this one but I believe they advertise that these can do over 30 miles fully charged, whatever BMW quote knock 20% off that and that is closer to real world reality.

They also aren’t especially reliable as they age and if something goes wrong expect a very large bill from BMW to fix it.

If you are planning to buy a used one with no warranty be very careful.

Thanks Drewby That's very helpful
If I go ahead it would be a new car not second hand
Regards John

 

[Drewby80]

Thanks Drewby That's very helpful
If I go ahead it would be a new car not second hand
Regards John

As long as it’s under warranty, all is well.

With the 11kW battery it will easily do a daily 15 miles so you should do most of your miles without the ICE.

The electric bits of mine were much more reliable than the ICE, for the cost of a new PHEV countryman you do have quite a few fully electric options though nowadays that will easily do 150 miles.

Have you considered full electric?

 

[Johnold]

As long as it’s under warranty, all is well.

With the 11kW battery it will easily do a daily 15 miles so you should do most of your miles without the ICE.

The electric bits of mine were much more reliable than the ICE, for the cost of a new PHEV countryman you do have quite a few fully electric options though nowadays that will easily do 150 miles.

Have you considered full electric?

Hi

I had considered a full electric but then when I looked at the locations in the UK where we normally tour when on holiday the lack of charging points is almost nonexistent.

I have looked at ZAP map when I was researching the possibility of a full electric, and one thing that did surprise me was the number of charging points which had been reported as out of action.

This is something I had observed when out and about before the COVID restrictions.

So a PHEV looked to be a possibility until such time as the charging network dramatically improves.



Best wishes John