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No, relatively speaking there will be loads. March 2020 was an EV sales record. Many of those 20-plate cars will soon be at the end of three year agreements.
Most economical and reliable used EV for £20k
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I know, I know. As I said, it's daft.
What sort of range do you get from your Leaf?
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I had a 2013 Swift Sport (1.6 N/A 6spd manual) - one of the sweetest handling cars I've had and reasonably long 6th gear for motorway hauling....
....but the mpg gauge was a liar: 44mpg on screen was more like 35-36mpg when calculated.
In summer my ZS LR probably has better range!
If anyone is seriously waiting for Teslas to be 20k…..they're in for a long wait
This anticipated “glut” will be absolutely swallowed
And in the REAL WORLD of people buying cars in dealerships, I can assure people it is NOT currently a “buyer’s market”.
This anticipated “glut” will be absolutely swallowed
And in the REAL WORLD of people buying cars in dealerships, I can assure people it is NOT currently a “buyer’s market”.
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A sixth gear would help with the motorway drone; mine's only got five. I'm keeping track of the fuel economy manually. So far, the onboard gauge has been accurate to within 0.1 of an MPG.
I'm not holding out for Tesla values to drop. I know that they're not within reach.
I bought my 18-plate Leaf 40kWh in 2020. It had 50,000 miles on it so it was a good price. I reckon the 8-year 100k miles battery warranty will see me out. I only do about 5k miles per year.
The car's battery has degraded by about 15% (SOH of about 87% on LeafSpy - but still all 12 bars showing on the dashboard). I reckon the real usable battery is about 33kWh. So, that realistically gives me about 100 safe miles. I tend to use the % battery on the dashboard as a proxy for the miles remaining.
And.... once you have bought the car, try never to go near a Nissan dealer again. Get the local garage round the corner to do your servicing and MoTs. Mine costs me about £50 for a service and I have more confidence in them than I would in a Nissan dealer. Nissan dealers are not EV specialists and their technicians spend most of their time on Jukes and Qashqais.
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I'd just like to say how impressed I am with the responses so far. Thank you all.
I know all/most/some of you must be thinking, "We could have told you that the Swift was the wrong car, you... [insert expletive]."
I know all/most/some of you must be thinking, "We could have told you that the Swift was the wrong car, you... [insert expletive]."
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To be fair, the one on Autotrader I posted is possibly only £2-3k over budget after the haggle, and has only done ~50k miles.I'm not holding out for Tesla values to drop. I know that they're not within reach.
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Had an egolf about 3 years. It's not a bad car but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it whole-heartedly. Small things like a UI prompt to confirm the single user that is set up, during driving, poor traction, poor mobile interface / fees, complicated charging schedule.
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Getting close for early SR+ examples.
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They're still selling new LEAFs, and the relevant chargers are reducing in number, the ongoing pulling apart of those two facts does mean this is something worth considering if you're doing semi-regular long trips.I know, I know. As I said, it's daft.
What sort of range do you get from your Leaf?
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I don't mean to take this thread too far off track and while I don't think that a Tesla is the answer to the OPs question, the recent Tesla price adjustment is a significant market disrupted.
Take the Model 3. You can now buy a brand new RWD car with 300+ mile range, batteries that need minimal maintenance, a heat pump, decent stereo, loads of cameras, good software, low service costs, comfortable seats and access to the Supercharger network for £43k, and without a wait. Depending on age, specification and mileage most used vehicles are going to sell for less than that.
There are currently 1734 adverts for used model 3s on the Tesla info site. Sometimes sellers use multiple channels so that is probably nearer to 1000 vehicles for sale. Unless there are more buyers out there than cars then some of these won't sell unless prices are reduced.
There is a natural level they will reach when buyers who might otherwise have bought a Nissan or Kia, or Hyundai, or VW, or Renault, or MG decide they would rather have a Tesla for a similar price, but then demand for those marques will start to dip. When demand slows, prices tend to fall.
Over the past few years demand has outstripped supply with buyers having to wait a long time and/or pay a premium to get a car. That situation is changing.
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You say that as if it is everyone's sole goal in life to drive a Tesla.
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UNLESS you need a hatchback, never drive far, or care about reliability, the post said... So I think really the suggestion is that nobody's goal should be to drive a Tesla.
May I through something so far not mentioned in the mix, The Vauxhall Corsa -E - 45Kwh Battery usable - However would be pushing it to get 150 winter miles, probably closer to 120 miles - there are lots of examples on Autotrader at sub £20K.
I have no experience of this vehicle, so could be pants but worth investigating, surely.
I have no experience of this vehicle, so could be pants but worth investigating, surely.
There are more CHAdeMO chargers in East Anglia now than there were a year ago. At least two MFG sites have opened on the A11 and A14, with 6+ rapid chargers each, all supporting either a CCS or a CHAdeMO; and Gridserve's electric forecourt on the edge of Norwich adds another few. That does not feel like reducing in number. I don't watch the rest of the country so closely, but I get the impression there are not many CHAdeMO chargers being withdrawn from service. Since such chargers practically always provide a CCS connector as well, they share the same queues at busy (normal) times.
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You're right in that the numbers of Chademo are increasing, along with the number of EVs, but it's significantly lower than the growth rate of CCS. Whatever the current picture, I don't think it's an irrelevant thing to consider if you're deciding to be in a Chademo car for the next few years.
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No, not really. If you need a hatchback, don’t do long journeys and would like something still under warranty and which has covered fewer miles because you’re particularly worried about reliability then your goal may very sensibly be to drive something other than an early-ish Model 3 for a little over £20k.
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No, not really. Not everyone needs a hatchback. Some people do regularly do long journeys. Some people do care about reliability, but just not to the extent that it means automatically discounting cars which are out of warranty and have covered more miles.
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