[Thomas carter]

Point to ponder on the edispatch xl 75kw.

Have you noticed the opening in front of the driver side wheel in the arch?

I have had to make a baffle to stop the muck going through in to the compartment which was designed for an inter cooler, if left open it could seriously fill with an awful lot of junk.

If you look through the grill in the front of the vehicle, you can see the air scoop. This really needs closing off as well.

What are the two for? Signs of the vans ICE origin? I wouldn’t want to close off an air scoop unless I was sure it wasn’t important (air cooling for the engine/battery? Air conditioning?)

 

[Eaz5]

By way of an update on efficiency: I performed a near identical trip home to the one previously reported on Wednesday evening. The ambient temperature ranged from 1°C/-1°C and was preceded by a fast charge at the Instavolt rapid charger at Astle Retail Park in West Bromwich. For the motorway portion I tried a near contant 60mph on cruise. Only varying to 62/58mph whilst going past the odd slower lorry. I saw an average of 2.2kWh/Mile for this. The last 10 miles of cross country driving tipped up to 2.4kWh/Mile.

Not unhappy with this at all. It can only get better as the weather warms up. The one thing I am really happy with is just how very quiet this van is. Even wind noise is very low in consideration of how large it is.

Those are some very encouraging figures. We could be looking at a realistic motorway range of 180 miles in summer, maybe even more.

 

[Thomas carter]

Random question - I take it inside it’s more or less the same fittings etc as the normal PSA vans? Reason I ask is I am tempted to get a van with the bench seat, but as we are expecting I would look to switch the bench to a single seat (so have two seats in the front) and have a double seat fitted in the back by an expert fitter

Some cold water poured on my plan by the dealer, apparently their local seat fitter for their diesel vans has concerns about fitting rear seats to the the electric ones - reasons given being the fact you have to drop the diesel tank to fit seats and the fixings for the panels etc in the back use different fittings for the electric van so they think non-conductive materials would be needed

Personally I wonder if this is more a lack of knowledge/experience working on EV’s (dropping the battery pack in other cars isn’t that big an issue compared to dropping a fuel tank other than shock safeguards) and Nissans env200 have metal seats no issues, but I can’t really take the risk of buying and finding out actually i can’t put seats in the back 😕

 

[dk6780]

Personally I wonder if this is more a lack of knowledge/experience working on EV’s (dropping the battery pack in other cars isn’t that big an issue compared to dropping a fuel tank other than shock safeguards) and Nissans env200 have metal seats no issues, but I can’t really take the risk of buying and finding out actually i can’t put seats in the back 😕

I agree - lack of knowledge and unduly scared of something due to it. Why not ask Citroen?

 

[Thomas carter]

I agree - lack of knowledge and unduly scared of something due to it. Why not ask Citroen?

Good idea, I had been speaking to a dealer so I had assumed they would know - have emailed Citroen directly

 

[Thomas carter]

After my query I sent to Citroen UK they have just contacted me to say theyve asked around at the business specialists at the dealerships who said they wouldnt due to the batteries

Am now asking a few third party seat fitters - Like the e-NV200 I cant see how the batteries would be a problem othr than needing to be removed, so unless they've iphoned them in there and are non-removable....

 

[Glyn Hudson]

so they think non-conductive materials would be needed

That's ridiculous, the entire van chassis is made out of metal, it's all fully earthed and totally safe. I've got a standard metal frame rock-and-roll bed in the back of my e-NV200.

Any HEVRA (HEVRA- Hybrid and Electric Vehicle Repair Alliance) garage would be able to drop the battery pack in about 10min, it's very easy with the right tools e.g a strong lift!

 

[Imp]

What are the two for? Signs of the vans ICE origin? I wouldn’t want to close off an air scoop unless I was sure it wasn’t important (air cooling for the engine/battery? Air conditioning?)

They have used the diesel body for the electric version, so removed the inter cooler, then fitted a blanking plate so there can't be an air flow to anywhere. So in essence just have more wind resistance and muck collection area.

 

[dk6780]

Citroen UK they have just contacted me to say theyve asked around at the business specialists at the dealerships

So let's get this right, the importer thinks that the best people to ask a technical query regarding a new model of vehicle are some salesmen?

Time to brush up your French and email Citroen.fr

 

[Kreukel]

So let's get this right, the importer thinks that the best people to ask a technical query regarding a new model of vehicle are some salesmen?

Time to brush up your French and email Citroen.fr

How about trying Peugeot/Vauxhall as they are 'the same' vans. 'I'm thinking of buying... and thought I 'd ask about...'
Anyone know who fits the racks that British Gas use, as they've bought/are buying vans and are fitting racking to them, which presumably is similar to what you'd need to fit seats.

 

[Benkels]

I saw Sussex Campervans have posted this:

They may be worth contacting to see if they'd fit seats for you. Presumably, they intend to start using them as a conversion base vehicle, must be confident about dropping the battery and anchoring rock and roll seats.

 

[Benkels]

How about trying Peugeot/Vauxhall as they are 'the same' vans. 'I'm thinking of buying... and thought I 'd ask about...'
Anyone know who fits the racks that British Gas use, as they've bought/are buying vans and are fitting racking to them, which presumably is similar to what you'd need to fit seats.

I think the guy in the British Gas van video is picking it up from the rack installers, I think they were called bri-star maybe?

I've decided to go for the medium length Peugeot e-expert crew cab 75kWh as I don't want risk having the panel van and then not being able to fit seats or finding someone to take it on. Plus I don't know how much hassle it is with insurance companies and the DVLA regarding adding extra seats.

As a side note, it looks like none of these vans have heated seats, which seems, to quote The Princess Bride, "inconceivable!". Or perhaps they're just not listed for some odd reason, despite listing things such as a laminated windscreen. All a bit odd.

 

[Benkels]

Vehicle Conversion Specialists | Van Racking | Bri-Stor Systems

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www.bri-stor.co.uk

 

[Thomas carter]

As a side note, it looks like none of these vans have heated seats, which seems, to quote The Princess Bride, "inconceivable!". Or perhaps they're just not listed for some odd reason, despite listing things such as a laminated windscreen. All a bit odd.

The Edeliver 3 has heated seats as standard

The PSA vans also have heated seats but I believe its only standard on the higher spec versions for some manufacturers - Peugeot mention it for some versions

All-New PEUGEOT e-Expert

From a quick search (so I may be wrong) The Vivaro e-life top spec has them but I dont think the van does, and I didnt see any mention of them in the citroen

Its defo a shame its not standard or at the very least an optional extra

 

[Benkels]

Yeah, I think on all the e-life, e-traveller etc spec they're an option or included but not on the vans so if you want the 75kWh pack you're a bit scuppered. I've now ordered the Peugeot crew cab with a fair few options, the crew cab is only available at professional level, not the top tear Asphalt. I'll remove the bulkhead and see if I can remove one of the three back seats, fit a pop top and custom build some cabinetry. If the seats are really problematic I guess I'll at least have some decent fixings for after market removable seats. Such a shame they didn't make the larger battery version of the e-traveller available over here, would have saved so much messing around... and cash too probably! I reached out to a few companies about fitting seats in the panel van version and they either didn't know or weren't interested. Perhaps in a year or two there'll be a few more people around to do installs. I'll report back when it arrives, I was told that delivery will likely take until August though. I'll have a 2015 e-nv200 24kWh tekna rapid plus up for sale then too!

 

[Thomas carter]

Yeah, I think on all the e-life, e-traveller etc spec they're an option or included but not on the vans so if you want the 75kWh pack you're a bit scuppered. I've now ordered the Peugeot crew cab with a fair few options, the crew cab is only available at professional level, not the top tear Asphalt. I'll remove the bulkhead and see if I can remove one of the three back seats, fit a pop top and custom build some cabinetry. If the seats are really problematic I guess I'll at least have some decent fixings for after market removable seats. Such a shame they didn't make the larger battery version of the e-traveller available over here, would have saved so much messing around... and cash too probably! I reached out to a few companies about fitting seats in the panel van version and they either didn't know or weren't interested. Perhaps in a year or two there'll be a few more people around to do installs. I'll report back when it arrives, I was told that delivery will likely take until August though. I'll have a 2015 e-nv200 24kWh tekna rapid plus up for sale then too!

Good plan - yes I agree there doesn’t seem to be a physical reason why seats can’t be fitted, just that no one has any experience doing it with the new PSA vans and I’m not brave enough to try and be a trend setter I believe the van is still the same shape as the ICE so it should be easy to get a pop top/cabinets for them

Id agree the 75kwh van is the way to go, 50kwh is just too restrictive on range unless you are patient (which my kids most definitely are not) which is a shame

 

[Gavztheouch]

Picked up a 75kw expert ex demo van a couple of days ago. So far impressed with the way it drives, very comfortable inside. I do wish they came with the 11kw three phase charger as standard as I could only find the 7kw version in time to buy the van before my year end. The plan was to use a Zappi 3 phase charger on my 44kw solar array to charge the vehicle. But unless I can find a way of changing the onboard charger to 3 phase I may be stuck with only using 1/3 of the solar array to charge which is a bit of a bummer.

 

[meetyg]

As for the MyCitroen/Vauxhall/Peugeot apps, they are really rubbish...
Us PSA EV private car users also have many problems with the app.
They have managed to make it worse with every release, the last one being totally broken.
Doesn't update the battery charge, Doesn't respond to pre-conditioning and more...

I hope they get it sorted out soon, because in previous versions it worked most of the time, and was nice to have these remote features...

 

[Kreukel]

As for the MyCitroen/Vauxhall/Peugeot apps, they are really rubbish...
Us PSA EV private car users also have many problems with the app.
They have managed to make it worse with every release, the last one being totally broken.
Doesn't update the battery charge, Doesn't respond to pre-conditioning and more...

I hope they get it sorted out soon, because in previous versions it worked most of the time, and was nice to have these remote features...

If you want to use the previous version (for some odd reason like it crashing immediately or trying to use it on a device that won't normally run Android Auto, say) then you can or may be able to find previous versions on apkmirror. ( https://www.apkmirror.com/faq/ you can also find previous Android Auto versions here).
I had to deny GPS permission on the old tablet I'm using because the current versions crash when the app tries to read the position (although Google Maps etc. can read the position without crashing - so this appears to be a My Peugeot problem).
It mostly works without this, it just can't record your journeys properly, the pre-conditioning and charge deferral settings do seem to work.

 

[philsuarez]

Bearing in mind these are commercial vans then should be sticking to 60 mph on most roads which would help efficiency massively