[Jono63]

I’ve been holding off getting the 2.1 update on my current ID3. The dealer has booked me in 3 times, but I’ve postponed each appointment. Sadly the errors, faults, odd behaviour - call it what you will, aren’t going away and the dealer can’t get any support from VW unless 2.1 is installed on the car.

Anyway - it’s going in on Monday / Tuesday and whatever the percentage, there is a chance it could be bricked.

As I’ve already got a new / never driven bricked ID3 in the dealers intensive care workshop (now 32 days), there’s a possibility that I could end up having 2 bricked cars.

Does anyone know if this will be a record?

 

[cah197]

I’m running out of popcorn.

 

[SoulGW]

Why do you have 2? How long has it been going on?

 

[Jono63]

Why do you have 2? How long has it been going on?

It’s a very long story, but to summarise - I was miss sold / lied to / tricked, into believing my current model had certain features that it didn’t - dud to find out until after I’d taken delivery due to Covid. The new one is to replace the original, it’s now been going on for about 6 weeks.

 

[Xinix]

as they say in Spain: no hay 2 sin 3, meaning: where there's two there's three. Go for it!

 

[6652]

I’m running out of popcorn.

I’ve not started mine, don’t want it to be a case of ‘ejaculato prematuro’...

 

[E-Gizmo]

Why would you delay the process?

Your car has issues, so get it updated,
if they brick it they will either un-brick it or replace the relevant controller(s), just make sure they give you a courtesy car whilst they have yours.

There is nothing to gain in holding off when your car has software issues.

 

[cah197]

I’ve not started mine, don’t want it to be a case of ‘ejaculato prematuro’...

The OP had me at ‘software update’.

 

[6652]

The OP had me at ‘software update’.

I’m holding out for the firmware, and the ‘bricking’. Oh, it’s just going to be a marvellous rollercoaster!

 

[cdlb]

Make sure you get a nice ID3 courtesy car while they do the work. Because if they brick your car, you'll still have a nice ID3 to drive around in.

 

[Jono63]

Why would you delay the process?

Your car has issues, so get it updated,
if they brick it they will either un-brick it or replace the relevant controller(s), just make sure they give you a courtesy car whilst they have yours.

There is nothing to gain in holding off when your car has software issues.

Possibly because :

1) There have been numerous update problems
2) I was waiting for the update process to settle down
3) Modules are taking a month to obtain from VW
4) VW - don’t seem to know what the underlying problem is
5) Some cars have been bricked for well over a month, I’m aware of one that’s over three months
6) ID3’s are often not available as loan cars
7) I just don’t want the hassle

 

[E-Gizmo]

Which I fully understand IF your car didn’t have issues.

 

[6652]

Possibly because :

1) There have been numerous update problems
2) I was waiting for the update process to settle down
3) Modules are taking a month to obtain from VW
4) VW - don’t seem to know what the underlying problem is
5) Some cars have been bricked for well over a month, I’m aware of one that’s over three months
6) ID3’s are often not available as loan cars
7) I just don’t want the hassle

I’m with you on point 7, my ID.3 was in on day 1 of the 2.1 update being available, and went from 0564 to 0792 without issue.

I believe that the vast majority are updating fine, there’s a Norwegian VW tech has posted on here that they’d done over 80 updates with no problems, just a few SOS modules needed replacement.

The problems seem to occur when a car being updated throws a wobbly, then they’re relying on VW Germany tech support, and that brings delays.

It’s worth getting it done, I’m a few weeks and a few thousand miles into my 2.1 experience, and I’m starting to just not think about potential software bugs and just using the car as the excellent tool that it is.

 

[Aleras]

How can a £40k car be bricked ?

Seem to be a few horror stories with ID3

 

[E-Gizmo]

How can a £40k car be bricked ?

Seem to be a few horror stories with ID3

Very easy to brick a controller if you don’t update it 100% correctly

 

[6652]

How can a £40k car be bricked ?

The same as a £20k or a £60k one I suppose. Cost has little to do with it.

 

[Mr_ess_jay]

I'm pretty sure you can 'brick' a £180k Taycan just as easily.

In the same way that you can leave a normal car immobilised by having a faulty sensor.

These are mechanical things and with all the best will in the world, they don't operate perfectly all the time.

Spare a thought for an airline that buys a £375m A350 which breaks down down route within 24 hours with a sensor issue and takes 3 days to have a new one sent half way across the world with an engineer to be replaced. Yes, in both circumstances a warranty comes into force, the airline might even get a little compensation as a penalty against Airbus but it won't cover lost operating costs or make up for the annoyance caused.

Just be pleased British Leyland aren't still operating... Those cars wouldn't last 5 years and were a whole load simpler.

And anyone who thinks that problems with cars are exclusive to VW, needs their head examing.

 

[cah197]

And anyone who thinks that problems with cars are exclusive to VW, needs their head examing.

It’s just I seem to remember lots of VW fans holding out for the unrivalled quality and reliability.

Here I am with my cheap, French car that just works. No bricking.

 

[Gailjon]

It’s just I seem to remember lots of VW fans holding out for the unrivalled quality and reliability.

Here I am with my cheap, French car that just works. No bricking.

The problem is that you have to drive a cheap French car

 

[OB1CCFC]

You would hope premium brands would have top notch standards in terms of hardware components purchased, software development (bought in or otherwise) and in particular testing processes.
Testing seems to have been in particular a significant problem for VW re the ID3 launch. I guess their inexperience with software development and roll out.
Hopefully, things are improving, lessons learned etc etc...