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Hi Guys!

My names Will, just thought I'd introduce myself!

I currently work with MINI in Newport South Wales, and I've just had some exiting news from MINI about the New Fully Electric MINI!

Working with Nissan in the past, being part of the team working with the Leaf 2.0 launch, this new MINI will be groundbreaking!

The best bit about new car is its pricing. It's priced in line with the rest of the MINI range, in fact, specing up a comparable Petrol model, the new MINI Electric is actually around £500 less!

Its coming ready for March 2020, but we can take pre-orders for the car now!

The PCP offers on the car are starting to be generated too so for any more info drop me a message at

[email protected]

I've put a pic below of the new car too, what do you think?

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Range? Charging?
 

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Range WLTP stated as 124 to 144 miles. Never seen two ranges quoted like that before so probably rely on 100 miles in normal driving etc. Charging is 50 kW. This is pretty low considering Ionity are installing 150 kW stations. So probably 45 minutes charging similar to I3 33 kW.

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I quite like the look of the Mini but I think if I were looking for a small EV (which I won't be for some time as my car is less than six months old) I'd prefer the Honda e. My first car was a Mini Clubman Estate (many decades ago); it was white with plastic woody bits down the side. I loved that car (even when it filled up with water in heavy rain or generally behaved like, well, a Mini); it was tiny but incredibly practical. If there's an electric Clubman when I'm next in the market for a car, I reckon I'd be tempted.
 

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Short on range and I heard its a 4 seater, already have a short range 4 seater so it's a no.
 

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Is it the same battery pack as used in the pre2018 i3?
No, the i3 uses Samsung cells, the new Mini will be using cells manufactured by CATL (a Chinese company).

Edit to add, I found this about the factory CATL are building in Europe:
While most European suppliers are still hesitating, the cell manufacturer CATL is quickly springing into action in Germany. Battery production in Erfurt could quickly exceed the size of Tesla’s Gigafactory in Nevada, given that Tesla CEO Elon Musk is also aiming for a long-term capacity of around 100 GWh with his battery factory.

It is therefore only beneficial to the industry that CATL has secured a sufficiently large area in Thuringia. This involves two areas of 35 hectares each plus a further 17 hectares for a supplier park in which the necessary preliminary products are to be produced. “Our initial planning is currently being revised,” Matthias Zentgraf said. There are further indications that CATL is now installing more production lines in its halls. Originally, two production halls were planned for the first 35-hectare field. “Perhaps the halls will now be larger,” says Zentgraf. For the manager, whose career led to CATL via Continental and Samsung SDI, the reasons are obvious: “The environment has changed considerably, the new CO2 targets lead to a faster eMobility ramp-up.”

Among the customers CATL intends to supply from Erfurt are BMW, Daimler, the French PSA group, as well as Volvo and Jaguar Land Rover, to name a few.

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I guess the question was about the lithium battery size/capacity rather than the manufacturer. Less range than my i3, tiny boot etc. etc. but many will find the design more appealing than the i3. Could be very successful as an urban runaround, particularly for younger people.
 

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I think there’s a real need for small, relatively inexpensive EVs. The range of this will be more than enough as an urban/suburban runaround and there’s no point shelling out for a massive battery pack if it’s almost always being lugged around unnecessarily.

The familiarity of it - its Mini-ness - might also make it a great option for Zipcar and similar.
 

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I guess the question was about the lithium battery size/capacity rather than the manufacturer. Less range than my i3, tiny boot etc. etc. but many will find the design more appealing than the i3. Could be very successful as an urban runaround, particularly for younger people.
According to ev-database, Mini EV has a 32.6kWh (28.9kWh usable) battery. BMW i3 has 42.2kWh (37.9kWh usable) and the 94Ah i3 had 33.2kWh (27.2kWh usable).

So as well as a different manufacturer the new mini has a different battery capacity than any i3.

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I think there’s a real need for small, relatively inexpensive EVs. The range of this will be more than enough as an urban/suburban runaround and there’s no point shelling out for a massive battery pack if it’s almost always being lugged around unnecessarily.

The familiarity of it - its Mini-ness - might also make it a great option for Zipcar and similar.
DriveNow (owned by BMW) already have some i3s in their London fleet so I’d be amazed if they didn’t make use of this as well.
 

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According to ev-database, Mini EV has a 32.6kWh (28.9kWh usable) battery. BMW i3 has 42.2kWh (37.9kWh usable) and the 94Ah i3 had 33.2kWh (27.2kWh usable).

So as well as a different manufacturer the new mini has a different battery capacity than any i3.

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That’s correct but we don't know whether the energy density of the cells is an improvement on the cells used in the 120Ahr i3. The capacity is less but the range is quite good for a car that’s made of metal etc. rather than plastic and GRP so perhaps there is a small battery improvement incorporated in the design. If so, BMW are being rather coy about it.
 

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Well, I’ve rewarded Mini’s courage in being up front about the price with £500 of my cash. Watch and learn, Peugeot/Renault/Honda/VW...
 
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