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We get our 30kw Leaf on Saturday and the timing couldn’t be worse. I’m off to the Alps for a week in my diesel car and the wife will be left with the Leaf for a week to do her commute with no other transport back up (other than my V8 TVR and that is NOT an option)

She’s IS NOT techy and does not understand EV’s at all. She just wants to get in a car and drive it.

Now I’m not expecting any range issues as she will be doing 27 miles to work on single A roads and then another 27 miles back 8 hours later. I’m hoping that the Leaf 30 can do 54 miles in its sleep, even though it is cold and she’ll expect heating full on.

Now I’m asking a favour. I don’t care about any battery sympathy (I can worry about that when I get back), I just want a fully charged car every morning for her to drive. Ideally pre-warmed on the way out whilst it’s charging.

Can you please tell me what settings I should tell her to do whilst I’m not there? (Baby instructions most welcome)

I plan on suggesting to put it on the granny charger at 6pm when she gets home, unplugging it at 8.30am to go to work.

How can she pre-heat it? We have no app access yet?

I assume this charging is the safest option until she gets to know it.

Any help for setting heating timers is most welcome.

Thanks in advance.

PS - 2017 Tekna if that makes any difference.
 

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There's a climate timer under EV settings.

I've set it to time my wife leaves home. It starts preheating 30 mins prior.

If you have a dedicated socket or granny charger, ask her to plug in every night before going to bed.

I was worried about my wife managing earlier this year but she was just fine.

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When it starts to freeze, keep the car in Eco mode (it stays until disabled). This should reduce throttle response - much like snowflake sign in many ICE cars.

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She'll love the heated steering wheel on Tekna, my wife does.

Always plug-in as soon as she gets home. Set charging timer to start charge from something like 10pm (to reduce strain on home ring main when you are using it the most, when you just got home).
Also set preheating timer at when she'll set off.
Range isn't an issue for 30kWh on 54 miles.

The slow emergency 3-pin domestic charging cable will work fine for now. 54 miles at 2.6 mi/kWh would use 20 kWh of electricity, which means under 9.5 hours of charging on the slow cable. No problem overnight.
 

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If she likes the heated steering wheel and seats, leave them switched on when shutting the car down. They'll use no power until the car is switched back on or the preheat is started, then they'll resume operation as they were originally set.

Remember though, everything on an electric car takes power from the batteries and everything taking energy from the traction battery will have some impact on range... Some people like the space heating (climate control), others like the seats/steering wheel. All of them together seems a bit extravagant!
 

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I think you've had the right advice.

  • Set a charging timer from about 10:30pm to 8:30am
  • Set a climate control timer for 8:30am (or whatever time she leaves in the morning - you set the departure time and it will start 30 minutes earlier).
  • Plug in every evening.
One thing I would add to this is set it up when you get the car and check it works on Saturday night so there are no nasty surprises. Also, as I've just found out, it's easy to forget to save the timer settings after changing the times! Check that that the charging schedule is right after you've set the timers.

All the timers are accessed by pressing the bottom button to the right of the screen with the car turned on.
 

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Remember that if the timer is set she will need to press the timer cancelling button if she wants to charge the car outside the charging timer window.
I would like a fiver for each time I plug the car on a 7kw and then return 2 hours later to find that the car didn't charge because I didn't press the damn thing :rolleyes:
 

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IMPORTANT NOTE:
Remember that if the timer is set she will need to press the timer cancelling button if she wants to charge the car outside the charging timer window.
I would like a fiver for each time I plug the car on a 7kw and then return 2 hours later to find that the car didn't charge because I didn't press the damn thing :rolleyes:
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Remember that if the timer is set she will need to press the timer cancelling button if she wants to charge the car outside the charging timer window.
This is why I never set the charge timer on my Leaf. I found that it caused more issues than it was worth. In the circumstances of the OP who will be using the much slower granny brick to charge, it would make charging less problematic to just plug in when arriving home from work and unplugging when leaving next morning. The KISS principle. As it charges slowly with the granny lead I would recommend plugging in as early as possible and letting it fill the battery sooner rather than later. This isn't a time to worry more about load balancing. It's all about making charging and running a new EV as simple and convenient as possible for a new user.

That will always ensure that a full battery is available and also that the climate timer will work, as the car is always plugged in half an hour before leaving. The climate timer settings are fairly easy to understand with the only possible mistake being to forget to save the settings. Then, because the charger timer isn't set there will also be no mistakes forgetting to switch that off if interim charging is required for an unexpected trip at weekends.
 

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Yes keep it simple.

Do you have an accessible power socket? Granny lead is quite long, maybe 3.5-4m. Threading the cable under the garage door was a pain, but worked for us.

DON’T use an extension lead unless it’s a specialist EV one... if necessary order that asap.

DO Set the climate timer. We absolutely love having a preheated car and we really love the heated steering wheel too.

Driving is über simple as long as you remember to put foot on brake to start and to select drive.

DO remember no reverse beeps. 🙄The 3d camera is fab once you get used to it but to begin with it’s a weird view.
 

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Oh! Extension lead!!!!

we were going to use the granny cable connected to an electrical extension leaf that we use for our tent electrical hook up as the plug is at the other end of the garage.

Will that carry the current?
 

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I had an Xtn lead that in theory should be ok. It got hot and tripped the circuit breaker... That’s what you get if you buy cheap crap from B&Q though, my bad.
I bought an extension from tough leads. Has a proper external (IPwhatever) socket that can be left outside in the rain and a cable as fat as a finger. Probably an overreaction but I’m damn sure it’s safe.

As said granny lead is quite long you may not need an extension.
 

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The extension I have is heavy duty, designed to be used outside, the cable is ‘fat as a finger’ and has a circuit breaker built in.
It’s one of those used at camp sites for caravans and tents. Is that ok?
 

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The extension I have is heavy duty, designed to be used outside, the cable is ‘fat as a finger’ and has a circuit breaker built in.
It’s one of those used at camp sites for caravans and tents. Is that ok?
Sounds like it - Does it have a rated maximum?
I found this helpful..
 

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Thanks. Good link.
My extension is rated at 16A so should be fine until I get a permanent solution

thanks again.
 

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The extension I have is heavy duty, designed to be used outside, the cable is ‘fat as a finger’ and has a circuit breaker built in. It’s one of those used at camp sites for caravans and tents. Is that ok?
Sounds like that would be OK as it's designed for sending power across fields to caravans. But the reel should have its ratings on a label. If it shows that it's rated for 13amps plus so far so good. The usual rules apply about always fully extending the cable and not using it with some coiled up in the holder. And to always check the house plug/socket for heat as well as the end socket/plug to the granny lead after 15 minutes and then an hour. If heat builds up beyond being hardly noticeably warm to the touch, and quite warm over time, especially at the house end something is wrong and needs further investigation.

It's also good practice to use an extension reel that is long enough for it to be placed underneath the car and also tuck the granny brick underneath as well so that it's sheltered from rain and weather under there as well. I used to put them both on a brick to take them away from standing water. A daily faff, of course, to get this whole cable connection out each night and then away again each morning, but then again this is not a practical permanent way to charge an EV. It's intended for emergencies or when visiting relatives. Sooner rather than later a proper wall charger needs to be fitted.

To repeat, don't bother with the charging timer. Programme the climate timer and make sure that the correct temperature and days involved are set before saving. Leave the seat and driving wheel heaters on before locking the car at night so that they come on with the timer. Check the cables and plugs for heat soon after plugging in. And tell her to enjoy the defrosted and warm car as she drives past neighbours wrapped up against the cold and beavering to clear ice off their car before leaving.
 

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Plug in as late as possible so the heat from charging gives you a warm battery to start with. Also better for the environment as the coal plants generally only run at peak periods.
 

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IMPORTANT NOTE:
Remember that if the timer is set she will need to press the timer cancelling button if she wants to charge the car outside the charging timer window.
I would like a fiver for each time I plug the car on a 7kw and then return 2 hours later to find that the car didn't charge because I didn't press the damn thing :rolleyes:
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