So I’m thinking of getting a 40kw Zoe 2017 for around 13k but paying cash . It’s on a lease battery . I do around 10k miles a year . Am I mad thinking this is going to be an expensive wnership or am I missing a good deal ? Will I be able to buy the battery in the future? I’m all ears please help . I’m coming from an owner 24 leaf
So I’m thinking of getting a 40kw Zoe 2017 for around 13k but paying cash . It’s on a lease battery . I do around 10k miles a year . Am I mad thinking this is going to be an expensive wnership or am I missing a good deal ? Will I be able to buy the battery in the future? I’m all ears please help . I’m coming from an owner 24 leaf
£13k is probably at the high end for a lease Zoe. Should be able to do better than that. I don't think it will be expensive, but battery owned will likely be cheaper given your mileage.
I would go on the assumption that you will never be able to buy out the battery lease.
Hi All, Selling my Zoe Q90 ZE40 Dynamic Nav in Mars Red with a battery lease. 11,020 miles on the clock and a SoH 99% Registered September 7th 2017. Second owner although the first was an employee at Renault. In good condition, a couple of scuffs on the one or two of the alloys. Looking for...
I'm sure the member won't appreciate this, but I personally think that car is listed too high for a private seller. Appreciate its a Q90, but you can get this from a main Renault Dealer, which if paired with the finance offer of £1,000 deposit contribution would come to £11,990 and also 2 free main dealer services.
I'm sure you could haggle a bit off the price as well if you are serious about purchasing it. £500 off is likely, so it makes it £1,000 cheaper with 2 free services and from a main dealer.
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Alternatively, this battery owned model is a decent price as a 19-plate model. Mileage a little high for it's age, but certainly not astronomical. Again, haggling £500 off and then using the £1,000 finance contribution, you could be looking at £16,500 for a nearly new i-model, again with 2 free services from a main dealer.
The New 50 Kw Zoe GT Line 135 on 4 year PCP is £349 a month No Battery Lease
( On a 40 Kw the Battery Lease could be up to £110 a month = £1,320 a year for Unlimited Miles )
For battery lease 10K miles will cost you £99 a month, but it is better to go for a lower mileage (say 7500) and just pay the extra miles at end. Avoids risks of paying for miles you don't end up using.
However, IMO the £299 PCH (3+23) for a new Zoe from DSG is worth thinking about. It would cost you £5400 more than battery rental. I suspect a £12K Zoe ZE40 battery lease car will lose at least £4K over next 2 years, so you would get to drive a new Zoe with CCS for not a lot extra. The market will change over next 2 years, so I think a better option than 4 year PCP.
I just went thru the same process and went for a 2017 41Kwh, R110 Dynamique. 18000 miles for £10k.
I made the decision by establishing the purchase cost vs a new Zoe on PCP over 2 years.
Used Zoe
Price: £10000
Lease pa: £708
Insurance pa: £300
Depreciation Pa: £2000 (I’ll get flak for this I’m sure)
Assuming I keep the car for 2 years, sell it, that’s a total expenditure of approx £8k.
New Zoe
Deposit - £1100 ish
Lease Pa: £3228
Insurance Pa: £300
You’re insulated from the depreciation ??
After two years, you will have spent £8156
So they are very close, but you end up with nothing at the end of the PCP. Whereas with used, you might retain half the original sale value. If you keep the used car beyond four years, the net loss diminishes further compared with PCP.
All of this is is really dependant on your individual use though, milage, drivers etc..
ZE50 2 year PCH here for £6,627.63 (Deposit - £1,771.23 + £330 fee + 23 months at £196.80) for 8,000 miles. You can adjust mileage to be higher if needed. No battery lease required. So you'd be saving around £79 (?) per month.
Extremely good deal for a car that isn't even out yet (deliveries start in March, I believe). Includes battery so no battery lease required.If you're looking fo
Worth pointing out that is the Iconic R110 without CCS. The DSG PCH is a GT Line R135 with CCS.
At £7,774, it's basically deciding whether it's worth £1,147 to get CCS, the faster motor, GT Line Styling, front sensors, rear camera and the different seat trim.
I'll make the assumption that you might be keeping the car for 4 years (surely usable for much longer), and I will also consider that at the end of those 4 years the car has no value left in it - false assumption, I know, but avoids biased discussions over the value of a 7 year old car. So that's a bit over 3250 per year, for the cost of the shell, or about 270 per month. Get extended warranty, that's I believe about 300 per year, 25 per month. Add on top, I think for about 10k miles the battery rental is about 90, so your monthly cost with the car shell + battery is about 385 per month.
All other costs are pretty much similar to those of a Leaf, insurance, servicing, electricity etc. so there's no point in going through them. Since you had a Leaf before, I believe you can make a similar calculation, compare the costs of both cars and make your decision.
20k for a new car with battery included is too high for him, but he's willing to pay 13k for a chassis and £1000+ a year on renting a batery on a car that will be worth 5k in 2-4 years time for having a leased battery
I agree with your view that the value of the chassis will decrease significantly - although I have to say that I'm amazed that they've held up this long when there is such an incredible exit cost (£2,500 or return the battery to France) on the contract regardless of whether the car is usable.
However, what will the £20k new car be worth after the same period? 45% - around £9k would be typical after 3 years which would compare to the £5k you estimated with the £3k of battery lease. The major difference is the fact that one is new and with less likelihood of issues not covered by warranty.
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