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Hi all,

Has anyone purchased OBDEleven and using it it there ID3 ? Any feedback or comments ?

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personally I wouldn't use any cheap coder, especially OBDEleven as it has been known to code irrelevant items with their 'one click' system.

For me VCDS is the only way, yes it's dearer but for a good reason.
VCDS doesn’t do much on my ID.3, VW have implemented Vehicle Diagnostic Protection (or SFD) on new models including the ID range, and they require secure access to the VW servers to change or retrofit anything.

I’ve got a HEX V2 cable and using the latest VCDS Beta I can scan modules, but not a lot else.

Over on the OBD Eleven forums, the developers are saying they’re an ‘official VW partner’ and will be given access to allow more functionality on some future release, but I haven’t seen anything yet.

For the moment, the only system that can reliable work with the ID.3 is the VAG ODIS tool, which whilst the car is under warranty is ok I suppose.

Whether VW have done this for security/reliability reasons or for financial ones, I don’t know. If they plan to sell over the air upgrades, it would make sense I suppose.
 

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What benefit would it offer the OBD device compared to Tronity? (It uses the built in online capabilities of the car)


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Doesn’t tell me anything that We Connect doesn’t as far as I can see? Seems limited on the ID models.

OBD Eleven and VCDS have traditionally gone a lot further and allowed communication with individual control modules in a car, for diagnostics and logging purposes as well as adaptation of individual modules for additional functionality or customisation.

I don’t think Tronity is that, it’s an information service isn’t it?
 

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VCDS doesn’t do much on my ID.3, VW have implemented Vehicle Diagnostic Protection (or SFD) on new models including the ID range, and they require secure access to the VW servers to change or retrofit anything.

I’ve got a HEX V2 cable and using the latest VCDS Beta I can scan modules, but not a lot else.

Over on the OBD Eleven forums, the developers are saying they’re an ‘official VW partner’ and will be given access to allow more functionality on some future release, but I haven’t seen anything yet.

For the moment, the only system that can reliable work with the ID.3 is the VAG ODIS tool, which whilst the car is under warranty is ok I suppose.

Whether VW have done this for security/reliability reasons or for financial ones, I don’t know. If they plan to sell over the air upgrades, it would make sense I suppose.
Fortunately on A Tour I doubt there will be much needed to be configured anyway.

But as always with VAG there will be some silly things that they don't turn on for some unknown reason, I will look to see what I can do when it arrives but I'm only interested in a few minor tweaks as all the big stuff is already activated:

rear sidelights on with DRL's
footwell lights on (dimmed down) when headlights are on
clock changing automatically
alarm chirps on locking / unlocking.

@Tooks I haven't search but is there a list of things that VCDS can actually do yet?
 

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Fortunately on A Tour I doubt there will be much needed to be configured anyway.

But as always with VAG there will be some silly things that they don't turn on for some unknown reason, I will look to see what I can do when it arrives but I'm only interested in a few minor tweaks as all the big stuff is already activated:

rear sidelights on with DRL's
footwell lights on (dimmed down) when headlights are on
clock changing automatically
alarm chirps on locking / unlocking.

@Tooks I haven't search but is there a list of things that VCDS can actually do yet?
I haven’t found one, not that I’ve looked too hard though.

I’ve more been reading up on what the deal is with the SFD protection on models from the Golf 8/ID.3 onwards.

From what I can gather, SFD is implemented on a module by module basis, some modules are ‘open’ and can be adapted, but they seem to be emissions related (so not applicable to the ID.3).

Others are locked and can only be read, and not adapted or even measured.

On my car, I can read fault codes and do basic diagnostics, but obviously I haven’t tried to adapt anything mainly because I don’t know fully what I’m doing with it and I don’t want to break it any more than it already is! 😂

Interestingly, I’ve been picking up from those more knowledgeable than I that the source of a lot of the low level and non critical software errors seem linked to the Continental onboard computers/Ethernet/Cloud side of things.

That rings true to me as all the car hardware bits seem to work very well indeed.

The telematics and comms side of things seem to be very protected, for obvious reasons I suppose.

I’m sure the big scan tool companies will eventually bring pressure on VAG to share protocols and allow GEKO tokens etc, but for now there’s a bit of a ring around the ID range.
 

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Hi,

I might be barking up the wrong tree but my initial thoughts were to use this to monitor and have a peak at any metrics made available, battery status etc etc. Being able to tweak might be useful though. Tour for me as well.
 

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Hi,

I might be barking up the wrong tree but my initial thoughts were to use this to monitor and have a peak at any metrics made available, battery status etc etc. Being able to tweak might be useful though. Tour for me as well.
Battery Life on YT has tried OBD11 on his ID.3, it certainly pulls a lot of data, but how accurate a lot of is or how useful it is another issue.

We’re a long way from a Leaf Spy or Scan My Tesla type App.

 

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I've plugged mine in but haven't found anything that's interested me yet, but it's not the weather for sitting in the car playing with it.
I bought obdeleven to monitor the battery on the Golf and haven't used it to make any changes, don't want to brick anything
I'll take the same approach for the ID so I won't be looking to experiment with changes to the settings just in case.
If someone else works out how to make useful upgrades I'll try it out but I'm not one to experiment and end up with a potentially expensive issue.


I would expect the battery heating, battery capacity etc can all be found in there but if you look at YT link above he's looking at one of maybe 10-15 sections, maybe more.
Some are easy to ignore, brakes for example, but the info I wanted on the Golf battery wasn't in an obvious place, and the ID3 battery capacity isn't in the same place as it is on the Golf, in my brief look.

It's slow and takes time to find things and I haven't made the time to look yet at info is there.
 

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I've plugged mine in but haven't found anything that's interested me yet, but it's not the weather for sitting in the car playing with it.
I bought obdeleven to monitor the battery on the Golf and haven't used it to make any changes, don't want to brick anything
I'll take the same approach for the ID so I won't be looking to experiment with changes to the settings just in case.
If someone else works out how to make useful upgrades I'll try it out but I'm not one to experiment and end up with a potentially expensive issue.


I would expect the battery heating, battery capacity etc can all be found in there but if you look at YT link above he's looking at one of maybe 10-15 sections, maybe more.
Some are easy to ignore, brakes for example, but the info I wanted on the Golf battery wasn't in an obvious place, and the ID3 battery capacity isn't in the same place as it is on the Golf, in my brief look.

It's slow and takes time to find things and I haven't made the time to look yet at info is there.
I liked how it reported the seatback temperature as 6500.00c in one section, maybe that explains the cold weather energy consumption? 😂
 

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I had a look this afternoon but most of the modules say they can't connect. It took several attempts to connect the app to the car, don't think I had that last time I plugged it in. I didn't find any seat heating info, I don't want to be fried alive by the seats.

I think I've found the live available battery capacity. I'm gong to check in the morning to see if its increased a suitable amount after being charged.

I found the 12V battery voltage, it was around 15.5V. The 'ignition' has to be on so I can't see it when it's not being charged.

Didn't find the battery temperature, but the battery module wouldn't connect and I would expect it to be in there. I try again tomorrow before the weather warms up too much to need battery heating.
 
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