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Ordered a Bargain Zoe R135 Today and Almost Made A Salesman Cry

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#1 ·
Went to Renault Leicester yesterday to make sure the pushchair would fit in the boot of their LHD showroom demo. Had a sit down with their salesman.
Pulled out the quote I'd had from another Renault dealer via leasing.com. He initially winced, then after 10 minutes with his sales manager returned, saying even if they stripped out all of the margin, they still couldn't do it.

Signed the wife up this morning for a Zoe 50 R135 GT Line plus Winter Pack with other main dealer:

2 Year lease. 12k miles a year. Initial quote was £214 x23 months plus 9 months down. Winter Pack adds a few quid a month. At £6,850 over two years, that deal's cheaper than anything else in the UK, and only a few pounds more than the Iconic and Play R110 offers - Absolute bargain.

Missus bravely decided she could live with Polar White in the name of economics. Metallic paint spoiled the feel of its sheer bargainess! Besides, where we live, it'll end up a shade of grey or brown all year round depending upon the season.

Arrives back end of March.

In the meantime she's got 2+ months in a rather nasty brand new rented automatic Suzuki Vitara. Did well there too to be fair. £350 ish a month all in on a month by month agreement. She tells me it's no consolation for the i3S which we waved a final goodbye too earlier today. Great car, but the doors and ride are not compatible with a 4 month old baby.

Can't believe we're both actually genuinely a little bit excited about the arrival of a Renault! But the interior of the new one really does seem quite a nice place to be.
 
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#2 ·
Late last year I was looking at some cars in a local Suzuki showroom, not so much with a view to buying one, but to look at a used VW Polo for my good lady. Unfortunately the Polo had already been sold so that was that. I had a short but candid chat with a Salesman regarding the Swift and Vitara cars on show. I mentioned that an automatic vehicle would always be my preference. The salesman very quickly replied that he'd probably have an uphill struggle to sell me a Suzuki auto, because their autos were "poor"................
 
#9 ·
How is 245 miles limited mileage?? That's like 4-5 hours of driving at motorway speeds.
Are they even automatic?
 
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#17 ·
Here's some of the "all in including fuel" options considerably cheaper than the zoe. I can hand pick a few there that are also bigger, do more than 87 miles per hour, are faster, more pratical, more equiped and so on

Audi A3 sportback lease £4896 Total @ SVC
Abarth 595C Convertible Car 1.4 T-Jet 145 70th Anniversary 24 month lease £5,001.24 Nationwide Vehicle Contracts

£5,001.24
Electric Hyundai Ioniq lease 24 x £237.99 + £199 Fee - 8000 Miles PA - £5912 Total via Leasing Options
£5,912
Vauxhall Astra GTC 2.0 Diesel Sport £201.60 Inc vat per month 2yr lease @ vehiclesavers
£5,241.60
Vauxhall Corsa 1.4 90ps Limited Edition - Personal Lease £3,348 Gateway2lease
£3,348
Ford Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost 125 Zetec S Personal Contract Lease 8K miles pa 6+23 (£107.98) TOTAL £3,131.42 (EQUIV. £130.48 PER MONTH) @ Future Vehicle Leasing
£3,131.42
Mercedes A180 CDI ECO SE 5dr for £189.99 + VAT Business / £227.99 Personal @ DSG
£5,243.77
Vauxhall GTC 2.0 diesel 2-year lease - £1540.80 then 23 monthly payments of £151.20 @ Vehicle Savers
£5,018.40
Volkswagen Tiguan 2.0 TDi 6sp Match - 2 yr lease, £1999.99 initial payment, 24 months @ £135.02 - 5000 miles p/a (or 10k option available) - total cost £5240.47 (less than depreciation!) @ National Vehicle Solutions
£5,240.47
Mercedes-Benz A Class A180d AMG Line 5dr 8k 2yr business lease deal £5464 @ Evans Halshaw
£5,464
Citroen C1 1.2 Puretech Feel 5DR £83.99 pm £2183.74 @ Time4Leasing
£2,183.74
Ford Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost 125 Titanium 5 door - 8k miles pa - £4,172 - 2 Year lease @ Nationwide Vehicle Contracts
£4,172
n NISSAN JUKE 1.6 [94] VISIA 5DR HATCHBACK 24 month lease 125.99 per month after initial payment of 1260 @ Tilsun Vehicle Contracts
£4,283.76
Volvo S90 Diesel Saloon D4 Momentum - Car lease - 18 months - £5487.98 (8K Mileage) @ Applied Leasing
£5,487.98
Citroen DS3 Dstyle BlueHDI Nav Lease Deal - 10k miles, 14 months, 83mpg - £83.95pm with £1200 deposit inc. VAT @ National Vehicle Solutions
£2,491
 
#26 ·
It's not spam. They asked me to make my point and I did. This deal (which supposedly made a salesman cry) is hardly a "deal". I can lease zoes for £6700 all day long. Lease it for £4000-5000 then we're talking business, because buying new (carwow/etc) and selling it used after 2 years, you see £2k depreciation max, so I wouldnt pay £7k for a leased zoe.
 
#28 ·
I ordered a ZE50 GT Line yesterday. Didn’t look at any other cars, not interested in anything ICE, so why bother looking at ‘cheap’ deals.
I just got a trade in value on my current ZE40, found out how much the payments were for a new one, found it was doable and ordered the new one.
 
#49 ·
Touting economics while buying new, even a lease, is sounding out just a tad off-key to my ears. I picked up a battery lease 65 plate Zoe in summer 2018 for a cool 5400 from Arnold Clark. It's now paid off and I only pay insurance/battery lease. That is a bargain. Spending 210/mo on a car payment is not in my view.

By all means buy new if you want, but don't take the economics angle, it's just silly.
 
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