Sounds good but I'm not going to hold my breath either for it happening within 6 months, or that it works correctly if it does indeed happen. Thanks for sharing though, the idea is sound.
OTA Updates Coming Soon
So, today when picking up our car I was talking to the sales manager and mentioned how much easier being able to update the Nav etc OTA would be, and he said that he went to some training/meeting thing last week and this is going to happen in the next 8 weeks!
He said this would mean we could update via the Bluelink app or in the car. Hopefully, this does happen, as it would make it a lot easier than downloading to an SD card/USB stick or taking the car to the dealer for a simple update. 🤞
He said this would mean we could update via the Bluelink app or in the car. Hopefully, this does happen, as it would make it a lot easier than downloading to an SD card/USB stick or taking the car to the dealer for a simple update. 🤞
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I’m not convinced by thsu @EV-Lo: Does the Kona even have the technology/hardware to do OTA updates? I suspect the sales manager was confusing the Kona with the newer Ioniqs.So, today when picking up our car I was talking to the sales manager and mentioned how much easier being able to update the Nav etc OTA would be, and he said that he went to some training/meeting thing last week and this is going to happen in the next 8 weeks!
He said this would mean we could update via the Bluelink app or in the car. Hopefully, this does happen, as it would make it a lot easier than downloading to an SD card/USB stick or taking the car to the dealer for a simple update. 🤞
8 weeks sounds too optimistic tbh, but I do like the idea of OTA as it’ll make updates more streamlined.Sounds good but I'm not going to hold my breath either for it happening within 6 months, or that it works correctly if it does indeed happen. Thanks for sharing though, the idea is sound.
Hope not, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. 🤷♀️I’m not convinced by thsu @EV-Lo: Does the Kona even have the technology/hardware to do OTA updates? I suspect the sales manager was confusing the Kona with the newer Ioniqs.
This is from the Ioniq 6 website FAQ8 weeks sounds too optimistic tbh, but I do like the idea of OTA as it’ll make updates more streamlined.
Hope not, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. 🤷♀️
IONIQ 6 will be the first vehicle launching with OTA and this service will expand across the range of Hyundai vehicles in the future.
The 2024 Kona will have OTA update capability (according to Hyundai), the current models do not have it.I’m not convinced by thsu @EV-Lo: Does the Kona even have the technology/hardware to do OTA updates? I suspect the sales manager was confusing the Kona with the newer Ioniqs.
I reckon that for OTA to be viable, they first have to rethink the way they distribute updates. Right now, every update is a complete image of the entire infotainment software and maps. I case of my e-Niro I think it's 27 GB or something to that effect. Distributing that amount of data via a 4G network does not really sound plausible to me.
So they should start distributing delta patches for incremental updates. It would make distributing far less costly and installing updates far quicker. It comes with added complexity such as version control etc but it's doable.
So they should start distributing delta patches for incremental updates. It would make distributing far less costly and installing updates far quicker. It comes with added complexity such as version control etc but it's doable.
Car system updates would be probably viable to distribute over cellular, but infotainment is just too big for it to be practical, except possibly via home wifi.
Map updates might be viable, but the whole nav system would need to have been designed around being able to do small incremental updates.
Map updates might be viable, but the whole nav system would need to have been designed around being able to do small incremental updates.
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For the Kona the infotainment system is Linux based so you might think incremental updating would be easy, but the main file system may not be writeable if they designed it to just reflash everything in one go. Simpler is to keep two complete copies of the system and just flip between active partitions (the way a lot of Android phones do) but then you can't really do incremental updates though it may not matter if the download takes a few days as the 'update' itself would simply be a reboot.
I think BMW do OTA updates for maps over a restricted area and if you're going further (abroad?) you can still download a full update manually. Not sure about that. At least some of BMW's updates go via their app which is a bit strange as it doesn't seem to have a concept of a primary user and I sometimes get notifications about updates due to my wife's car. I got one this week telling me I had to apply an update to the car's bluetooth for the rfid key to work but I couldn't figure out what it was on about as opening the notification took me to the key (in Google wallet) rather than the BMW app.Car system updates would be probably viable to distribute over cellular, but infotainment is just too big for it to be practical, except possibly via home wifi.
Map updates might be viable, but the whole nav system would need to have been designed around being able to do small incremental updates.
For the Kona the infotainment system is Linux based so you might think incremental updating would be easy, but the main file system may not be writeable if they designed it to just reflash everything in one go. Simpler is to keep two complete copies of the system and just flip between active partitions (the way a lot of Android phones do) but then you can't really do incremental updates though it may not matter if the download takes a few days as the 'update' itself would simply be a reboot.
The real question methinks is 'will the next and subsequent updates be accurate?' the last one that I got and installed (all via Tom-tom I believe) does not include some of the junctions on the M6. It also failed to guide during the approach to the M6 from the A14. Yes, I watch the signposts with great care, but it is re-assuring when the mapping shows exactly what you see yourself. Accuracy is more important to me than the tediousness of installation. Will it be accurate?
At least the previous update did away with telling me of the approach of every layby on the A14!
Lawrence
At least the previous update did away with telling me of the approach of every layby on the A14!
Lawrence
I saw a pre-production model at Fully Charged: very nice, although with the Tesla big screen ambience that now seems to be de rigeur for EVs nowThe 2024 Kona will have OTA update capability (according to Hyundai), the current models do not have it.
The latest update does include OTA update - but only for the Ioniq 5. To be honest I wouldn't expect it to every be applied to current Konas, as I suspect it would need a hardware change (which really isn't going to happen!)So, today when picking up our car I was talking to the sales manager and mentioned how much easier being able to update the Nav etc OTA would be, and he said that he went to some training/meeting thing last week and this is going to happen in the next 8 weeks!
He said this would mean we could update via the Bluelink app or in the car. Hopefully, this does happen, as it would make it a lot easier than downloading to an SD card/USB stick or taking the car to the dealer for a simple update. 🤞
This is one of those 'true but misleading' statements. Yes, in the future, but not on current models.This is from the Ioniq 6 website FAQ
IONIQ 6 will be the first vehicle launching with OTA and this service will expand across the range of Hyundai vehicles in the future.
Lawrence
i Can only see infotainment updates on my Bluelink app for an Ioniq 6
I remember OTA updates were "coming soon" when I bought mine 3 years ago.
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