[Nigelbs]

Recently being spending some time in Oxford. I have yet to find a working Type 2. ended up having to drive out to the services Peartree(just one Chademo charger) or Oxford (2 Chademo) . Any help gratefully received - seems to be an issue between the council and New Motion (or as I now call it No Motion) for the Type 2s.

 

[CHR1SG]

List of charge points in Oxford, Oxfordshire
Westgate Oxford Car Park Westgate
Thames Street
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX1 1TR 45 x 7kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes
5 x 22kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes Swarco E.Connect

Car Park Worcester Street
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX1 2BQ 1 x 3kW 13A 3-Square pin
1 x 7kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes POLAR

Kineton Street
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX1 4PG 2 x 22kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes NewMotion

West Street
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 0BH 1 x 7kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes NewMotion

12 Bevington Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6NB ubitricity

Juxon Street
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6DR 2 x 22kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes NewMotion

Stockmore Street
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX4 1JT 2 x 22kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes NewMotion

Lake Street
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX1 4RR 2 x 7kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes NewMotion

1 Alexandra Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 0DD ubitricity

111 Leckford Road
Junction of Woodstock Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6JQ ubitricity

5 Winchester Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6LU ubitricity

6 Winchester Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6LU ubitricity

Tackley Place
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6RR ubitricity

13 Tackley Place
opp. 13
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6RR ubitricity

11 Warnborough Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6RT ubitricity

11 Warnborough Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6RT ubitricity

Tesco 159-161 Cowley Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX4 1UT 1 x 3kW 13A 3-Square pin
1 x 7kW 32A Type 2 Mennekes POLAR

1 Farndon Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6RT ubitricity

7 Farndon Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6RS ubitricity

12 Farndon Road
Oxford
Oxfordshire
OX2 6RR ubitricity

 

[richtrash]

There is also a charger in the BMW factory car park at Cowley.

 

[Nigelbs]

Cowley.

There is also a charger in the BMW factory car park at Cowley.

is that available for general use?

 

[Mike Etchells]

Recently being spending some time in Oxford. I have yet to find a working Type 2. ended up having to drive out to the services Peartree(just one Chademo charger) or Oxford (2 Chademo) . Any help gratefully received - seems to be an issue between the council and New Motion (or as I now call it No Motion) for the Type 2s.

You should be so lucky...
Have a look at the chargers in Shrewsbury - that is a charging desert!

 

[Nigelbs]

Thanks folks - looks like I should check out Ubitricity than, I am not familiar with them

 

[SLR]

Thanks folks - looks like I should check out Ubitricity than, I am not familiar with them

Hi Nigel
In a few weeks, the ubitricity charge points in Oxford will be upgraded for Pay As You Go use. At the moment, you need one of ubitricity's smartcables to use them.

 

[richtrash]

is that available for general use?

Yes but last ti e I was there it was surrounded by EVs presumably the workers cars as I think it's free to use or was.

 

[TVEV]

Wasn't Oxford supposed to be the shining example of how it should be done, after receiving a big wodge of public money to prove it?

I said at the time that it was a waste of public money, and that rapid charging hubs with multiple chargers are a better solution. I believe that there are some projects going on along those lines now?

 

[SLR]

Morning all. If you live or work or visit Oxfordshire regularly (the whole county, not just the city of Oxford), now's the time to let the county council know your views on the type of charging network that would work for you. This survey is live now:

Consultation Homepage - Park and Charge: Electric Vehicles (EV) and EV Charging - Oxfordshire County Council Consultation Portal

consultations.oxfordshire.gov.uk

 

[SLR]

Wasn't Oxford supposed to be the shining example of how it should be done, after receiving a big wodge of public money to prove it?

I said at the time that it was a waste of public money, and that rapid charging hubs with multiple chargers are a better solution. I believe that there are some projects going on along those lines now?

Yes, Go Ultra Low Oxford ran a trial of how different forms of on-street charging performed for people without driveways, and how they compared against home charge points for people with driveways.
The first report was published in November 2019. You'll find the documents here:

GULO | Research | Transport Studies Unit | University of Oxford

Go Ultra Low Oxford (GULO) - Monitoring and Evaluation Study, by the Transport Studies Unit, Oxford. On-street charging technologies can significantly improve access to charging infrastructure for residents of terraced or communal housing without private off-street parking space. In this pilot...

www.tsu.ox.ac.uk

https://www.tsu.ox.ac.uk/pubs/2019-GULO-Phase-1-Final-Report.pdf

 

[donald]

I saw a Tesla charging on a Podpoint street charger recently. It said '3 hours max' and they now charge 18p/kWh. I mean, really? Seriously, why bother?

Recently being spending some time in Oxford. I have yet to find a working Type 2. ended up having to drive out to the services Peartree(just one Chademo charger) or Oxford (2 Chademo) . Any help gratefully received - seems to be an issue between the council and New Motion (or as I now call it No Motion) for the Type 2s.

I'm really curious, why did you feel a need to find a slow speed charger? Why not use a rapid on your way there or back?

 

[MatthewSt]

@donald He mentions that he's spending time in Oxford, so most likely staying there and not leaving Oxford based on the question. Otherwise driving out to Peartree (for a rapid charger) wouldn't be something he's having to do out of necessity

 

[TVEV]

The first report was published in November 2019

"Relatively high costs of installation and low utilisation mean that each bollard manufacturer and operator explained when interviewed that they did not consider residential on-street locations to be commercially viable in the near term (5-10 years)."

 

[richtrash]

I think they should put lots of 3/7kW posts at the various P&Rs around the city, that would encourage people to use the P&Rs, they could also put some Rapid chargers there as well.

 

[richtrash]

Someone from the council needs to contact Ecotricity and ask when Pear Tree will support CCS, its quite an important location and if they can't be bothered then they should make way for someone who is, it would make a cracking charging hub site like the one they installed in Banbury.


I'm not a fan of supermarket chargers because as EV's become more prevalent then the chargers will constantly be in use, mainly by people that have driven less than 10 miles to get their, I also think that the chargers should not be free to discourage unnecessary usage.

 

[SLR]

"Relatively high costs of installation and low utilisation mean that each bollard manufacturer and operator explained when interviewed that they did not consider residential on-street locations to be commercially viable in the near term (5-10 years)."

I think they should put lots of 3/7kW posts at the various P&Rs around the city, that would encourage people to use the P&Rs, they could also put some Rapid chargers there as well.

Using lampposts solves these problems. The installation costs are much lower, the charge points are right outside the homes of the people who need them, and they operate right in the middle of 3-7kW, the 5.5 kW sweetspot. So utilisation can be relatively low and people can still access an "at home" charging amenity that makes overnight charging convenient.

 

[donald]

Using lampposts solves these problems.

It would only solve the problem if;
a) lamp post manufacturers gave a damn to make them, AND
b) Councils gave a damn to install them, AND
c) there was a viable population of EV owners to make it commercially viable, AND
d) the ratio of EV:ICE is sufficiently high that ICE are not so likely to be parking in front of the EV-outlet-enabled lamp posts virtually all the time.

Apart from THAT, what did the Romans ever do for us?


......

... oh, sorry, wrong post ....

 

[SLR]

retrofitting works too. As for the other criteria, ta dah...

 

[HandyAndy]

Using lampposts solves these problems...

Funny you should suggest this. About 2-3 years ago, when Oxford was busily going about installing their experimental chargers in the side streets, their City Council decided to fit a lampost charger to one of the lamposts in a narrow-ish strret parallel to Iffley Rd. They had carefully selected a street where the lamposts were placed right by the road, so there wouldn't be any trip-hazard caused. In the meantime, Oxford County Council, who clearly don't talk to the City Council, had decided to improve the safety of some of the streets under their administration. This involves moving lamposts from the road-edge of the pavement and relocating them to the house-edge, so that fire-engines & ambulances can make better progress in an emergency. They duly relocated all the lamposts in this street, moving them about a yard towards the houses. Soon after, the Oxford City workmen arrived to fit the charger socket to the chosen lampost. They were surprised to find the lampost had moved! This would cause a trip hazard !! So they duly dug it up form its spot by the house, and put it back where they wanted it! And then they fitted the charger socket.

Gilbert & Sullivan would have had a field-day!