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I'd be really interested to see which model would prefer - there's been lots of chatter about the pros and cons of each method. If we accept that free electricity can't continue indefinitely, which model would you prefer?
Because that's how I want to pay for fuel, and how I am used to paying for it.If you are voting for per kWh, why?
Because you think it will turn out less expensive, or that it will result in better sharing of a limited resource?
Per kWh is exactly what would cause a rapid charger to be blocked for hours on end. There is no incentive to actually rapid charge on one, or even move away when you are finished under per kWh.It's got to be per kwh as the only sensible option for rapid chargers which should not be allowed to be blocked for hours on end. This would allow charging the appropriate amount whatever the charging capacity of your car.
But electricity is fundamentally different. You can't fill your car up with petrol at home that you generated yourself. It's a different set of economics.Because that's how I want to pay for fuel, and how I am used to paying for it.
There is nothing stopping you working out cost-per-mile when paying by the hour. It's your choice how expensive you make the electricity based on how long you want to leave your car plugged in but not charging.For me, it has to be by fuel consumed in order to then be able to work out cost-per-mile, and then compare with the petrol option. If charging is ever going to be more expensive per-mile, then I won't use the charger and will go to BP.
Yup - but PHEV drivers have 3 choices of fuel: home electricity, petrol, and public charge post electricity. If you're away from home, you have 2 choices: public charging or petrol. Each time I refuel away from home I work out the cost per-mile of the available charge post, and compare it with petrol (roughly). Time-based pricing makes that near to impossible to compare, given it could be 3-6 hours to recharge, and even on best-case Chargemaster is 15p/mile compared with 10p/mile for petrol.But electricity is fundamentally different. You can't fill your car up with petrol at home that you generated yourself. It's a different set of economics.
No, but try leaving your car on the forecourt while you head off to do some shopping and see what happens.It's got to be kWh... you don't pay for petrol by the amount of time you spend parked next to the pump!?
Why 3-6 hours to recharge? Surely that is some specific problem with a particular charging point operator that doesn't make it obvious what the post is capable of? Seems easy to fix...Yup - but PHEV drivers have 3 choices of fuel: home electricity, petrol, and public charge post electricity. If you're away from home, you have 2 choices: public charging or petrol. Each time I refuel away from home I work out the cost per-mile of the available charge post, and compare it with petrol (roughly). Time-based pricing makes that near to impossible to compare, given it could be 3-6 hours to recharge, and even on best-case Chargemaster is 15p/mile compared with 10p/mile for petrol.
Per kWh is exactly what would cause a rapid charger to be blocked for hours on end. There is no incentive to actually rapid charge on one, or even move away when you are finished under per kWh.
Needlessly? Using petrol and all that that entails is needless if there's charge available for electric, surely?as this will dissuade PHEV and REX drivers from using the resource needlessly.
Precisely.Needlessly? Using petrol and all that that entails is needless if there's charge available for electric, surely?