Range winter
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Batteries are like people - they hate being too cold.
Careful driving might squeak 160-170 out of that displayed range this time of year.
Careful driving might squeak 160-170 out of that displayed range this time of year.
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Thanks just me being a newbie to all this
When we had ICE vehicles, we did not always fill them full every time, and-or we did not all have range to empty displays. Thus we didn't really think about the range number.
Now we EVs they are thrust in to our faces, and being often lower numbers than the old ICE would give, we tend to notice variations in them more.
Did you ever reflect on whether the ICE old car said 340 or 390 miles to empty ?!!
And did we notice a difference or worry about between Jan 20th and June 20th display ---- probably not ( #Guilty)
If we had been more focused in the old days, we would have seen the big variance over winter-summer values.
Just the figure of 170 ( vs 350 ) brings it home a bit more about the weather factor.
Plus, with an EV, the temperature affects the fuel more ( rather than affecting unleaded).
So not only do you use more to shift the vehicle due to air temp, air density, air con on, heating on, wipers, lights, the fuel you use up is less efficient at giving energy.
And, the battery doesn't store as much charge ( vs a 45litre tank always no matter what weather, taking 45litres)
After all those downers, just remember how much cheaper to run !!
(And the defrosting pre heat luxury)
Now we EVs they are thrust in to our faces, and being often lower numbers than the old ICE would give, we tend to notice variations in them more.
Did you ever reflect on whether the ICE old car said 340 or 390 miles to empty ?!!
And did we notice a difference or worry about between Jan 20th and June 20th display ---- probably not ( #Guilty)
If we had been more focused in the old days, we would have seen the big variance over winter-summer values.
Just the figure of 170 ( vs 350 ) brings it home a bit more about the weather factor.
Plus, with an EV, the temperature affects the fuel more ( rather than affecting unleaded).
So not only do you use more to shift the vehicle due to air temp, air density, air con on, heating on, wipers, lights, the fuel you use up is less efficient at giving energy.
And, the battery doesn't store as much charge ( vs a 45litre tank always no matter what weather, taking 45litres)
After all those downers, just remember how much cheaper to run !!
(And the defrosting pre heat luxury)
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Me and my partner just picked up a 2015 Ze and attempted to drive it home but it only gave us about 60 miles before it ran out of power. We’ve ended up having to stay the night in a hotel while the thing charges overnight. I knew that there is a drop off in cold weather but I didn’t think it would be this dramatic.
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170miles on 38.5kWh usable? That's 4.4mpkWh. You won't get that in the depths of winter on cold wet roads. No way, not driving sensibly.. 3.5mpkWh is possible, 3.2mpkWh is typical, 2.9 is realistic in really poor conditions. I dunno why folk always want to over-egg range. Real, realistic range is 110-135 miles, stick to never going over 120mile and you won't end up stuck at the side of the road waiting to be towed to a charger. 
A rapid charge would have given you a quick boost - not sure how many miles you needed but these older Zoe's do AC rapid charging at either 22kw or 43kw depending on the model.
60 miles is about your worst case winter scenario - that is minus temperatures and fast driving - you'll get up to about 95 miles in summer. Hope thats what you were expecting?
Cheers.
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Turns out the Ze doesn’t actually have the rapid charging capability. Feeling rather dumb now as we had thought rapid and fast were words used interchangeably before. Well... we learned the hard way!!
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A Q(210) Moddel will have 43kW AC Rapid charge, the R(240) Model will have 22kW AC Fast charge. With the 2015 you mentioned having you must have a 22kWh battery pack. So if you plug it into either a 43kW rapid charger, or a 22kW charging post you would have been recharging at about 1% every ~40 seconds still.Turns out the Ze doesn’t actually have the rapid charging capability. Feeling rather dumb now as we had thought rapid and fast were words used interchangeably before. Well... we learned the hard way!!
I definitely don't think an overnight hotel stay would have been necessary.
I have a Zoe and it definitely has rapid charging ! Even at 22kw "fast" charging, it is only a 22kwh battery so an hour would have given most of a charge.Turns out the Ze doesn’t actually have the rapid charging capability. Feeling rather dumb now as we had thought rapid and fast were words used interchangeably before. Well... we learned the hard way!!
Cheers.
All Zoes (even the newest ones) can take 22kW AC.
50kW DC CCS charging is a £1k option only on the middle & upper spec ZE50.
50kW DC CCS charging is a £1k option only on the middle & upper spec ZE50.
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