Shell Recharge up to 41p a kWh!

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srichards

Discussion Starter · Mar 25, 2021

Just got an email trying to take the bitter taste of expensive charging away with a free pastie also telling me the standard Shell Recharge price is now 41p a kWh!

With Gridserve at 24p will these single charger installations that are so pricey have a hope in hell of surviving? The 36p of Instavolt/Osprey is on the high side but they do tend to have 2 units and they're generally reliable. I can't see how Shell think they're worth more for single units that are mostly still only 50kw and still single units. If they doubled them all up to duals with far better bay design they might be. Most are just crammed into a fuel station and are awkward to use with a rear charge port.

Shell Recharge | Ultra-Fast Electric Vehicle Charging

We're growing our network of 150kW Ultra-Fast and 50kW Rapid charge points across the UK and our charge points use 100% certified renewable electricity.

uk.shellrecharge.com

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Chris Paulin

· #2 · Mar 25, 2021 (Edited)

srichards said:
Just got an email trying to take the bitter taste of expensive charging away with a free pastie also telling me the standard Shell Recharge price is now 41p a kWh!

With Gridserve at 24p will these single charger installations that are so pricey have a hope in hell of surviving? The 36p of Instavolt/Osprey is on the high side but they do tend to have 2 units and they're generally reliable. I can't see how Shell think they're worth more for single units that are mostly still only 50kw and still single units. If they doubled them all up to duals with far better bay design they might be. Most are just crammed into a fuel station and are awkward to use with a rear charge port.

Shell Recharge | Ultra-Fast Electric Vehicle Charging

We're growing our network of 150kW Ultra-Fast and 50kW Rapid charge points across the UK and our charge points use 100% certified renewable electricity.

uk.shellrecharge.com

I have just had the email as well!
What with Genie-point increasing their prices, admittedly removing the connection charge, things are starting to get expensive for those of us who can't home charge!

SCA1972

· #3 · Mar 25, 2021

srichards said:
Just got an email trying to take the bitter taste of expensive charging away with a free pastie also telling me the standard Shell Recharge price is now 41p a kWh!

With Gridserve at 24p will these single charger installations that are so pricey have a hope in hell of surviving? The 36p of Instavolt/Osprey is on the high side but they do tend to have 2 units and they're generally reliable. I can't see how Shell think they're worth more for single units that are mostly still only 50kw and still single units. If they doubled them all up to duals with far better bay design they might be. Most are just crammed into a fuel station and are awkward to use with a rear charge port.

Osprey are going the other way and reducing the price to 31p if you use their app. I know apps are frowned upon round these parts but I’ve been happy using them for my charging so far and if it saves money then even better.

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srichards

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 25, 2021

Osprey are supposed to be doing an RFID card as well. I think that also gives you the 31p price.

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Lutek1000

· #5 · Mar 25, 2021

I will only keep the app to be able to use other cheaper operators (Alfa Power)

DanP

· #6 · Mar 25, 2021

I got the mail, didn’t seem to be a minimum spend on juice to get the free pastry* (not pasty) ;-)

* it’s a pork and apple hog roast roll, or cheese and onion slice.

6652

· #7 · Mar 25, 2021

DanP said:
I got the mail, didn’t seem to be a minimum spend on juice to get the free pastry* (not pasty) ;-)

* it’s a pork and apple hog roast roll, or cheese and onion slice.

Is there an option to pay 50p per kWh and not have the roll/slice?! 🤢

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DanP

· #8 · Mar 25, 2021 (Edited)

Tooks said:
Is there an option to pay 50p per kWh and not have the roll/slice?!

It looks pretty good in the pictures in the app - I’m sure reality would be different and they say there is no such thing as a free lunch, but I have to say I'm tempted.

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Oli

· #9 · Mar 25, 2021

Shell have never competed on price. Convenience and brand (and decent premium fuel) are what they’ve offered to ICE Drivers. This suggests they think people who switch to EVs are going to assume they pay a higher price for premium electrons. Let’s see how they get on.

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Woodulike

· #10 · Mar 25, 2021

Oli said:
Shell have never competed on price. Convenience and brand (and decent premium fuel) are what they’ve offered to ICE Drivers. This suggests they think people who switch to EVs are going to assume they pay a higher price for premium electrons. Let’s see how they get on.

I was going to say that BP pumps always seem to be more expensive than many other options, including Shell, near me but still have customers filling up regularly.

I know many people don't have a clue if they are paying over the odds or not

SoulGW

· #11 · Mar 25, 2021

Is there SuperLec though? More electrons per KWh perhaps... extra 1m per KWh that sort of thing?

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Dan_Gleebitz

· #12 · Mar 25, 2021

srichards said:
Osprey are supposed to be doing an RFID card as well. I think that also gives you the 31p price.

I am not sure about that. This is from the web site.
Please note we do not hand out RFID cards as standard, please use contactless payment.
The Osprey App is for regular users of our charge points, rewarding you with a cheaper tariff than contactless when you use it to start/stop and pay for charging. We’ll also bring you new features such as our subscription pricing (coming soon).
FAQs
Why is the Osprey App tariff cheaper?
We want to reward you, our regular charging customers.
We know signing up to an app is a bit more effort than tapping your payment card on the charger, and so we’re saying thanks for joining us with a cheaper tariff and extra features that you can’t get from using contactless payment.
To be totally transparent, because you pay a monthly bill with the app account, we can charge a lower rate of VAT (5%) and we pass this saving on to you.

In the App and on the web site there is no option to order or add an RFID card.

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Hairy Leafer

· #13 · Mar 25, 2021

I might be in a minority but given that these things cost six figures just to set up and install, 40p KWh in a car that very rarely does less than 4 miles per KWh / 10p per mile still sounds pretty reasonable compared to an ICE to me.
For me rapid chargers are like motorway service petrol stations as I primarily charge at home anyway.

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SoulGW

· #14 · Mar 25, 2021

I prefer an app - can't think of anything worse than having 10 or 20 RFID cards in my car - my smartphone can have 10 apps on it quite happily.

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Chris Paulin

· #15 · Mar 25, 2021

SoulGW said:
Is there SuperLec though? More electrons per KWh perhaps... extra 1m per KWh that sort of thing?

Their electrons are denser, giving more power

Dan_Gleebitz

· #16 · Mar 25, 2021

SoulGW said:
I prefer an app - can't think of anything worse than having 10 or 20 RFID cards in my car - my smartphone can have 10 apps on it quite happily.

Having recently joined octopus energy I have now applied for their electric juice network card which hopefully in the near future will negate the need for multiple RFID cards. Well I live in hope.

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srichards

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 25, 2021

Dan_Gleebitz said:
I am not sure about that. This is from the web site.
Please note we do not hand out RFID cards as standard, please use contactless payment.
The Osprey App is for regular users of our charge points, rewarding you with a cheaper tariff than contactless when you use it to start/stop and pay for charging. We’ll also bring you new features such as our subscription pricing (coming soon).
FAQs
Why is the Osprey App tariff cheaper?
We want to reward you, our regular charging customers.
We know signing up to an app is a bit more effort than tapping your payment card on the charger, and so we’re saying thanks for joining us with a cheaper tariff and extra features that you can’t get from using contactless payment.
To be totally transparent, because you pay a monthly bill with the app account, we can charge a lower rate of VAT (5%) and we pass this saving on to you.

In the App and on the web site there is no option to order or add an RFID card.

Yet. They're working on an RFID solution. I have been in contact with them about it.

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Dan_Gleebitz

· #18 · Mar 25, 2021

OK thank you for that information.

EdH

· #19 · Mar 25, 2021

Let's face it, if you don't have home charging there's not much point in having an EV. We all know EVs are better to drive but if you are strapped for cash why would you pay more for a car that has limitations you don't get with an ICE.

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sirenity

· #20 · Mar 25, 2021

@EdH I would have agreed that it's difficult if you can't have home charging a couple of years ago, but I'm sure Coventry is not alone in starting to install street charging points in residential areas where there is no dedicated parking /drive at each house at a price and density that makes it properly viable.

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