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Just got an email trying to take the bitter taste of expensive charging away with a free pastie also telling me the standard Shell Recharge price is now 41p a kWh!

With Gridserve at 24p will these single charger installations that are so pricey have a hope in hell of surviving? The 36p of Instavolt/Osprey is on the high side but they do tend to have 2 units and they're generally reliable. I can't see how Shell think they're worth more for single units that are mostly still only 50kw and still single units. If they doubled them all up to duals with far better bay design they might be. Most are just crammed into a fuel station and are awkward to use with a rear charge port.

 

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Just got an email trying to take the bitter taste of expensive charging away with a free pastie also telling me the standard Shell Recharge price is now 41p a kWh!

With Gridserve at 24p will these single charger installations that are so pricey have a hope in hell of surviving? The 36p of Instavolt/Osprey is on the high side but they do tend to have 2 units and they're generally reliable. I can't see how Shell think they're worth more for single units that are mostly still only 50kw and still single units. If they doubled them all up to duals with far better bay design they might be. Most are just crammed into a fuel station and are awkward to use with a rear charge port.

I have just had the email as well!
What with Genie-point increasing their prices, admittedly removing the connection charge, things are starting to get expensive for those of us who can't home charge!
 

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Just got an email trying to take the bitter taste of expensive charging away with a free pastie also telling me the standard Shell Recharge price is now 41p a kWh!

With Gridserve at 24p will these single charger installations that are so pricey have a hope in hell of surviving? The 36p of Instavolt/Osprey is on the high side but they do tend to have 2 units and they're generally reliable. I can't see how Shell think they're worth more for single units that are mostly still only 50kw and still single units. If they doubled them all up to duals with far better bay design they might be. Most are just crammed into a fuel station and are awkward to use with a rear charge port.
Osprey are going the other way and reducing the price to 31p if you use their app. I know apps are frowned upon round these parts but I’ve been happy using them for my charging so far and if it saves money then even better.
 

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I got the mail, didn’t seem to be a minimum spend on juice to get the free pastry* (not pasty) ;-)

* it’s a pork and apple hog roast roll, or cheese and onion slice.
 

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Shell have never competed on price. Convenience and brand (and decent premium fuel) are what they’ve offered to ICE Drivers. This suggests they think people who switch to EVs are going to assume they pay a higher price for premium electrons. Let’s see how they get on.
 

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Shell have never competed on price. Convenience and brand (and decent premium fuel) are what they’ve offered to ICE Drivers. This suggests they think people who switch to EVs are going to assume they pay a higher price for premium electrons. Let’s see how they get on.
I was going to say that BP pumps always seem to be more expensive than many other options, including Shell, near me but still have customers filling up regularly.

I know many people don't have a clue if they are paying over the odds or not
 

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Osprey are supposed to be doing an RFID card as well. I think that also gives you the 31p price.
I am not sure about that. This is from the web site.
Please note we do not hand out RFID cards as standard, please use contactless payment.
The Osprey App is for regular users of our charge points, rewarding you with a cheaper tariff than contactless when you use it to start/stop and pay for charging. We’ll also bring you new features such as our subscription pricing (coming soon).
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Why is the Osprey App tariff cheaper?
We want to reward you, our regular charging customers.
We know signing up to an app is a bit more effort than tapping your payment card on the charger, and so we’re saying thanks for joining us with a cheaper tariff and extra features that you can’t get from using contactless payment.
To be totally transparent, because you pay a monthly bill with the app account, we can charge a lower rate of VAT (5%) and we pass this saving on to you.

In the App and on the web site there is no option to order or add an RFID card.
 

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I might be in a minority but given that these things cost six figures just to set up and install, 40p KWh in a car that very rarely does less than 4 miles per KWh / 10p per mile still sounds pretty reasonable compared to an ICE to me.
For me rapid chargers are like motorway service petrol stations as I primarily charge at home anyway.
 

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Is there SuperLec though? More electrons per KWh perhaps... extra 1m per KWh that sort of thing?
Their electrons are denser, giving more power ;)
 

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I prefer an app - can't think of anything worse than having 10 or 20 RFID cards in my car - my smartphone can have 10 apps on it quite happily.
Having recently joined octopus energy I have now applied for their electric juice network card which hopefully in the near future will negate the need for multiple RFID cards. Well I live in hope. :)
 

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I am not sure about that. This is from the web site.
Please note we do not hand out RFID cards as standard, please use contactless payment.
The Osprey App is for regular users of our charge points, rewarding you with a cheaper tariff than contactless when you use it to start/stop and pay for charging. We’ll also bring you new features such as our subscription pricing (coming soon).
FAQs
Why is the Osprey App tariff cheaper?
We want to reward you, our regular charging customers.
We know signing up to an app is a bit more effort than tapping your payment card on the charger, and so we’re saying thanks for joining us with a cheaper tariff and extra features that you can’t get from using contactless payment.
To be totally transparent, because you pay a monthly bill with the app account, we can charge a lower rate of VAT (5%) and we pass this saving on to you.

In the App and on the web site there is no option to order or add an RFID card.
Yet. They're working on an RFID solution. I have been in contact with them about it.
 

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Let's face it, if you don't have home charging there's not much point in having an EV. We all know EVs are better to drive but if you are strapped for cash why would you pay more for a car that has limitations you don't get with an ICE.
 

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@EdH I would have agreed that it's difficult if you can't have home charging a couple of years ago, but I'm sure Coventry is not alone in starting to install street charging points in residential areas where there is no dedicated parking /drive at each house at a price and density that makes it properly viable.
 
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