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Rather uninteresting. Big, expensive, nothing particularly spectacular compared to the Model S.

Meh.
 

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Rather uninteresting. Big, expensive, nothing particularly spectacular compared to the Model S.

Meh.
Perhaps, but they'll sell a shitload to people who would otherwise buy a Porsche Cayenne or Range Rover Evoque. Selling a shitload with a nice healthy profit is what they need to do to get the Model 3 on the road.
 

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Rather uninteresting. Big, expensive, nothing particularly spectacular compared to the Model S.

Meh.
You say 'Meh' to Falcon wing doors!!!

I'm glad my job is too design something to impress you :p

I cannot wait to order one....Just need Mr Musk to announce a slight cheaper 75kWh version :)
 

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I'm sure it is great in many ways, but doors aside (which to be honest I think look a bit odd with conventional front doors) it is visually exceptionally bland. They've moved the front on, which I think looks much better than the S, but they've still got a long way to go to achieve a distinctive design language commensurate with the values and innovation they show everywhere else. Fingers crossed for the 3.
 

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While I enjoyed the performance of the Model S and appreciate the range, the interior is quite plasticky, especially for a car in its price bracket.

If Tesla hope to compete effectively with a Cayenne or Vogue (this isn't in the Evoque price range), I hope they've made the Model X interior luxurious enough.

All pie in the sky for me, though, I'm not their target market.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I like the doors. But it doesn't seem to really push things forward much. Okay, they showed you could do a big Chelsea tractor EV. But it isn't cheap, it doesn't have better range than the Model S, it doesn't charge faster... It's basically just a bigger, less efficient version of the previous car they released.
 

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I'm glad my job is too design something to impress you :p
Ok, I see there are words there, but as a sentence they appear to have no meaning. Explain please?
 

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Don't get me wrong, I like the doors. But it doesn't seem to really push things forward much. Okay, they showed you could do a big Chelsea tractor EV. But it isn't cheap, it doesn't have better range than the Model S, it doesn't charge faster... It's basically just a bigger, less efficient version of the previous car they released.
Dual motor was developed for X (and then reverse applied to S). 90kwh pack was most likely also developed for the X and applied back. It also goes into a totally different segment, and from speaking to parents with young children it does solve a (first world) "problem" of getting kids into car seats. It'll also make a good taxi. They can sell more X's than S's, (or maybe a roughly similar amount, but double in total) so if as you say it's a small change to their existing car that doubles their sales, well, that lets them produce the model 3 twice as quickly. Why is that a problem?
 

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No problem, it's just not that exciting.

From Wikipeida: Meh is an interjection used as an expression of indifference or boredom. It may also mean "be it as it may".[1] It is often regarded as a verbal shrug of the shoulders. The use of the term "meh" shows that the speaker is apathetic, uninterested, or indifferent to the question or subject at hand.
 

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We like what Tesla are doing – they are kind of the Apple of the automotive market; making a big song and dance about launches and putting a lot of ‘fluffy’ bits on the car (e.g. the doors).

But isn't it these quirks things that help a brand stand out and sell its new products? For example, when the iPod was launched with those white headphones… It becomes a trademark of the brand and something they eventually find it hard to live without.

Just like we have the war of Apple v Android, it seems like we may see the war of Tesla v conventional cars in years to come…
 

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The X just looks wrong to me when viewed from the side, it appears to have too much rear overhang that makes it look out of balance to my eyes.

But I do like that they have junked the pseudo grille of the S, that was always a design feature I thought odd and out of place.

A pity the rear view wing cameras didn't make it but that's a legislation issue I suspect.

 

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While I enjoyed the performance of the Model S and appreciate the range, the interior is quite plasticky, especially for a car in its price bracket.

If Tesla hope to compete effectively with a Cayenne or Vogue (this isn't in the Evoque price range), I hope they've made the Model X interior luxurious enough.

All pie in the sky for me, though, I'm not their target market.
I was hoping for exactly the same, but nope the interior isn't a big step forward :(
Like you I think it may harm the uptake for those cross shopping.

One thing I think we have to bear in mind is the S was so revolutionary when it came out. Everything was there for a practical reason (even the gimmicks like the touchscreen and door handles).

To me the X doesn't move the SUV space on in the same way the S did for the saloon cars.
 

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^ I have to say I've never seen the point of SUVs. It might be a gimmick but the flacon doors are the only reason I really want a Model X over a S.

For me the S is a better car, as I've said its not as heavy, quicker, just as safe, likely handles better...and if you take the 'pre-owned' cars into account a hell lot cheaper.

I guess I just have to try and ignore the little kid in me....Maybe a few hours spent looking at what else I could by for £15K will help make me realise those doors aren't worth it :)
 
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