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My company are adding EV's to the company lease scheme, which is great, and there was an interesting revelation today when I read that the reason Tesla was excluded is because "Tesla's for example cannot be added to the scheme because of Data Privacy (Tesla's require a remote update)"

Does this make any sense at all? Vulnerabilities have been identified recently in VW, Audi and (famously) a Jeep was remotely hacked from 10 km away by Wired magazine iirc

Interested in peoples thoughts / knowledge on this as I might query it, it doesn't actually affect me as I don't use the scheme anyway, but I might in the future if it has EV's and I am curious whether people know of actual evidence that Tesla are a higher Data Privacy risk than other cars.

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Complete bollocks. You can turn off the connection if you like.

Lots of other cars have data connectivity (even the humble Zoe). Lots have things like OnStar support.
 

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This is a common problem with leasing companies and there are a good number of VWs being driven around with all the connected features disabled because of it.

I don't understand the reason either - the stated one is clearly bollocks - it may relate to a lack of clear and documented process for removing all personal data from the car?
 

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Hehe, consistent view here, although I may avoid the use of the word "Bollocks" in any response :)
 

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The leasing companies don't want you using the connected system to book servicing or repairs that may be outside of their agreed (and heavily discounted network).

Easy way to stop it? Ban all connected systems irrelevant of whether it has the option to book servicing or not..
 

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The leasing companies don't want you using the connected system to book servicing or repairs that may be outside of their agreed (and heavily discounted network).

Easy way to stop it? Ban all connected systems irrelevant of whether it has the option to book servicing or not..
This is not a feature available in a Tesla currently. In any case, you can only get the cars serviced by Tesla in any case.
 

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This is not a feature available in a Tesla currently. In any case, you can only get the cars serviced by Tesla in any case.
But I'm guessing you cannot disable the connected systems in a Tesla in a way that the lease company would be happy with. As in Tesla turning it off and continuing to support the vehicle?

It tends to be a blanket policy and unless they create a bespoke connected system (like BMW above) or support disabling it completely then a lot of lease companies just won't deal with certain manufacturers/models.
 

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But I'm guessing you cannot disable the connected systems in a Tesla in a way that the lease company would be happy with. As in Tesla turning it off and continuing to support the vehicle?

It tends to be a blanket policy and unless they create a bespoke connected system (like BMW above) or support disabling it completely then a lot of lease companies just won't deal with certain manufacturers/models.
Well, you can turn it off in the car in settings and not allow Tesla to access the car, if that's what you mean? ...or just pull the sim card.

Not sure what their issue is frankly.
 

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Funnily enough, AFAIK Teslas are the only ones where you can actually turn the connection off. Many other cars, not just EVs, send streams of data back to say where it is and what it's doing.

Tell your company that it now has a mountain of extra work ahead of it because the horses they are trying to keep hold of there have mostly bolted from their stables already, and they'll have to be checking out the applicability of their mandate to all cars.
 

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Not true. European regulations prohibit car manufacturers insisting cars are only serviced with them, and there's now at least one garage offering servicing that's not Tesla.

Warranty is a different matter, but they pay for that.
I'd love to see them do a software patch.

Of course for brakes and tyres, I can go to Kwik-Fit I know...
 

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So you don't know then.

Thanks for your input.
Great attitude.

It’s the law due to block exemption regulations

They have a website you can subscribe to for info.

And you prefer to believe your view?

No one is saying it’s easy, but then how easy is it to get the full blown up to date BNW, AUDI or Merc diagnostic software legitimately?
 

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Great attitude.

It’s the law due to block exemption regulations

They have a website you can subscribe to for info.

And you prefer to believe your view?

No one is saying it’s easy, but then how easy is it to get the full blown up to date BNW, AUDI or Merc diagnostic software legitimately?
Not sure what you mean about ‘my view’. As I said previously if there was a local specialist who could run the diagnostics and checks for the annual service I’d be there in a heartbeat (assuming it was cheaper).

The current reality is there really isn’t an alternative option for most Tesla owners.
 

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I also think this is bollox especially since we also have company mobile phones, I am sure the mobile phone provider has access to our location and our data goes through their servers.
 
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