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So I've been looking at getting a EV soon and think I've narrowed it down to either a Zoe 22kwh or the Leaf 30kwh. I've arranged a 30 minute test drive in a 15 plate Zoe Intens (So I assume it's the Q Motor?) on Monday at a Renault dealer in Derby, I was just wondering if there's anything in particular to check? I want to reset the consumption and drive maybe 20-25 miles to get an idea of the consumption with the type of roads I'll be using it on. Do I reset the trip meter through the RLink system or holding the button down on the stalk?

Car looks to be in good condition, it's done about 48k miles. I asked the sales person if it was still covered under warranty ie has the previous owner extended the warranty once the initial 4 years ran out (I've read that you can then continue to extent it annually up to 10 years old?) She seemed to think that even if the owner hadn't it was possible for me to start the warranty extension again as it was from a main Renault dealer.... Is this the case and should I avoid cars that do not have an extended warranty?

I'm not going to be buying it there and then as I also want to drive the Leaf and work the figures out but any advice or things to look out for would be much appreciated.

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If the warranty has run out it can't be renewed. Zoe best avoided without warranty. Check everything works. Test air con/ heater. Manual should be with car, simple instructions for computer reset. Have you asked about battery lease? Battery may have been bought out. If not sure wa
 

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Sorry, tapped post before finishing,if not sure. Walk away.
This is a battery lease car, it's up for £6999 from main dealer. Having only just recently starting to read up on the Zoe's and initially looking like a cheap way to get into an EV, If I'm doing about 10k miles a year, with the battery lease, purchase price and warranty extension costs it might not be as economically viable as first thought. To purchase this car outright over 4 years and lease the battery inc extending the warranty I'd be looking at around £230 pcm. The reliability stories and need for warranty extension is now making me apprehensive.
 

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You could probably get a new ZE50 for that if you looked.
Exactly... suddenly getting on the EV ladder isn't as cheap as it seemed! Looking like a Leaf 30 might be the way to go. If only I could afford a Kia Soul 30....:cry:
 

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Check the tyres very carefully. They are prone to cracking and cost about £150 each to replace with originals (if you can get them). The price is quite high. Agree with the warranty too. I had the big box on the top replaced (causes Stop - Danger - Electrical - Fault error). Cost £2.5k under warranty claim. It can get mighty expensive if the electronics go wrong.

Also, the battery lease makes the car more affordable, but comes with on almighty catch. The lease is your responsibility until you can pass it on to the new owner. I've just had one almighty tussle with the lease on my previous Zoe that I p/xed for the MG (see the #IsurvivedRCI below) Just think about when you come to move it on. How many people will want to pay the extra £45 to £99 on top of their monthly payments. Unless you are prepared to buy out the lease (which I'm told you now can, talk to RCI. Expect to pay north of £5k for the privilege.)

IMO the Leaf is quieter, more refined and goes further than the Zoe. It doesn't have a lease. It also has better charging options (my daughter has one). I would recommend the Leaf to you, if it's decent.
 

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ZE50 comes without a lease. Renault has had to drop it as none of the competition has one. This has put the price up.
 

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Check the tyres very carefully. They are prone to cracking and cost about £150 each to replace with originals (if you can get them). The price is quite high. Agree with the warranty too. I had the big box on the top replaced (causes Stop - Danger - Electrical - Fault error). Cost £2.5k under warranty claim. It can get mighty expensive if the electronics go wrong.

Also, the battery lease makes the car more affordable, but comes with on almighty catch. The lease is your responsibility until you can pass it on to the new owner. I've just had one almighty tussle with the lease on my previous Zoe that I p/xed for the MG (see the #IsurvivedRCI below) Just think about when you come to move it on. How many people will want to pay the extra £45 to £99 on top of their monthly payments. Unless you are prepared to buy out the lease (which I'm told you now can, talk to RCI. Expect to pay north of £5k for the privilege.)

IMO the Leaf is quieter, more refined and goes further than the Zoe. It doesn't have a lease. It also has better charging options (my daughter has one). I would recommend the Leaf to you, if it's decent.
Leaf's looking more and more like the car to go for. Also to clarify, with a battery lease, If I've purchased the car outright and in 2 years time want to sell it privately, the new owner has to take on the lease of course, but what happens if I part exchange it with a dealer... does the lease then end or would I have to keep paying for it even though I'd sold the car?
 

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Leaf's looking more and more like the car to go for. Also to clarify, with a battery lease, If I've purchased the car outright and in 2 years time want to sell it privately, the new owner has to take on the lease of course, but what happens if I part exchange it with a dealer... does the lease then end or would I have to keep paying for it even though I'd sold the car?
If you sell to a dealer you just sign the paperwork in the same way, but they get a ‘payment holiday’ as a motor trader.

The problems people have had is because the dealers didn’t send the paperwork to RCI in a timely manner.

The simple answer is to make sure you email it to them yourself. Then they are pretty good at processing it.
 

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Where's the best place to sell an EV privately? I'll be putting my late 2014 Q210, 22 kWh battery car in a week.
I think people outside of London have found them a bit harder to sell on without warranty.

Your best bet is to see what some of the EV specialists on here will give you for it.
 

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I've maintained the extended warranty which should help. Hopefully with the London congestion charge at £15 per day will make it an attractive proposition. I did wonder if I should buy out the battery lease, but thought that the purchaser might prefer the warranty that comes with a leased battery.
 

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I've maintained the extended warranty which should help. Hopefully with the London congestion charge at £15 per day will make it an attractive proposition. I did wonder if I should buy out the battery lease, but thought that the purchaser might prefer the warranty that comes with a leased battery.
I’d be tempted get the quote from RCI and then you can offer both options to potential buyers.
 

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If you sell to a dealer you just sign the paperwork in the same way, but they get a ‘payment holiday’ as a motor trader.

The problems people have had is because the dealers didn’t send the paperwork to RCI in a timely manner.

The simple answer is to make sure you email it to them yourself. Then they are pretty good at processing it.
I think @Sputnik72 should be aware that it can, and usually does, seem to be that easy. However, if it doesn't you are into a whole new world of pain. I've already told you that by the end of the 5 months I was feeling suicidal (it came very close).

Unless they change the contract, which they are unlikely to do, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.

I did wonder if I should buy out the battery lease,
If you you were keeping Zoe long term I would say go for it. As you're considering selling it, you are going to increase the price. How much will you need to ask to break even or make a profit on it. Have a look at what a similar 'i' version is going for. You will then have an idea of the value of your Zoe plus the price of the battery added is competitive.
 
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I think @Sputnik72 should be aware that it can, and usually does, seem to be that easy. However, if it doesn't you are into a whole new world of pain. I've already told you that by the end of the 5 months I was feeling suicidal (it came very close).

Unless they change the contract, which they are unlikely to do, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole.


If you you were keeping Zoe long term I would say go for it. As you're considering selling it, you are going to increase the price. How much will you need to ask to break even or make a profit on it. Have a look at what a similar 'i' version is going for. You will then have an idea of the value of your Zoe plus the price of the battery added is competitive.
I think the I model is the only one I'd consider, but then you've got the worry of the traction battery to think about.... Think a leaf or a Leaf 30 with an 8 year battery warranty is a much better bet.
 

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I think the I model is the only one I'd consider, but then you've got the worry of the traction battery to think about.... Think a leaf or a Leaf 30 with an 8 year battery warranty is a much better bet.
What’s the battery warranty on a Zoe?
 

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One option would be to sign up for the £49 month lease for 3 years and buy out the battery just before then. I am told they aren't checking mileage (or asking for their 8p mile) when you do that 😉 Of course that might change, but I suspect unlikely...
 
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One option would be to sign up for the £49 month lease for 3 years and buy out the battery just before then. I am told they aren't checking mileage (or asking for their 8p mile) when you do that 😉 Of course that might change, but I suspect unlikely...
Yeah that's an option, but again that would work out more expensive than buying a Leaf 30kwh for 3-4k for now.
 
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