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Waiting for delivery of my Kona SE Premium - and I've been taking the opportunity to study the manual.

One thing I am unable to find any reference to is User Profiles, which I am sure I have heard about in the context of the Kona. I know that when I am driving the car I will want to have all the information available, but I am pretty sure that when my wife is driving she will view all that sort of stuff as a distraction, and want as many options as possible to be turned OFF!

Does the car store a different set of settings for the two different keys that come with it, and if so which settings are stored by user, and which are common?
 

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Waiting for delivery of my Kona SE Premium - and I've been taking the opportunity to study the manual.

One thing I am unable to find any reference to is User Profiles, which I am sure I have heard about in the context of the Kona. I know that when I am driving the car I will want to have all the information available, but I am pretty sure that when my wife is driving she will view all that sort of stuff as a distraction, and want as many options as possible to be turned OFF!

Does the car store a different set of settings for the two different keys that come with it, and if so which settings are stored by user, and which are common?
The profiles need you to have a recent version of the infotainment software (and I'm not sure even brand new ones are always delivered with up to date software so you may need to check). The old software had a home screen split in 3 panes, that version does not have user profiles. The new software has a mostly blank home screen with just a faint map displayed, that one has two named users plus guest.

I'm not really sure just how much you can customise because my wife and I just use the same profile for simplicity: basically anything settable on infotainment such as favourited radio stations or satnav destinations is specific to the profile. Things that have to be set through the steering wheel options menu I don't think are stored on the profile.
 

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The profiles need you to have a recent version of the infotainment software (and I'm not sure even brand new ones are always delivered with up to date software so you may need to check). The old software had a home screen split in 3 panes, that version does not have user profiles. The new software has a mostly blank home screen with just a faint map displayed, that one has two named users plus guest.

I'm not really sure just how much you can customise because my wife and I just use the same profile for simplicity: basically anything settable on infotainment such as favourited radio stations or satnav destinations is specific to the profile. Things that have to be set through the steering wheel options menu I don't think are stored on the profile.
Ah - so infotainment settings only, then. I was thinking rather of the vehicle settings - what the instrumentation shows you, what driver assistance facilities are turned on by default, that kind of thing.

You talk about infotainment software updates: are they workshop updates, or can they be performed by the user? How about map updates, and car software updates?
 

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Ah - so infotainment settings only, then. I was thinking rather of the vehicle settings - what the instrumentation shows you, what driver assistance facilities are turned on by default, that kind of thing.

You talk about infotainment software updates: are they workshop updates, or can they be performed by the user? How about map updates, and car software updates?
Officially in the UK and EU map and software updates are dealer only. You are supposed to ask the dealer to apply any updates and it's supposed to be free.

Unofficially there are copies of the updated software and maps available online, either downloaded from the Russian Hyundai update site (which has English language and European maps) or sometimes leaked copies of the European updates. Check other threads on speakev for discussion, the latest version currently available is the August 2021 update, September should be along in a few days time. The main problem with DIY is that it takes a long time to download and even copying the update onto a memory stick can take a few hours. Also in theory Hyundai might decline to honour warranties if they notice you've updated yourself.

Updates for software other than the infotainment really is dealer-only. So far as I know.
 

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I don't think there's anything "unofficial" about DIY updates. Below is an image of a search result. I have used that link twice now to update my Kona's infotainment unit with no issues. It didn't take hours, just 10 minutes or so for the download a few minutes to fiddle about with extracting the compressed files and about 15 minutes for the update in the car. Easy as.

I haven't checked for EU or UK software - didn't want to go down that wormhole. And I suppose it's possible that your UK importer may have restrictions, but certainly our Aussie one doesn't.


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I don't think there's anything "unofficial" about DIY updates. Below is an image of a search result. I have used that link twice now to update my Kona's infotainment unit with no issues. It didn't take hours, just 10 minutes or so for the download a few minutes to fiddle about with extracting the compressed files and about 15 minutes for the update in the car. Easy as.

I haven't checked for EU or UK software - didn't want to go down that wormhole. And I suppose it's possible that your UK importer may have restrictions, but certainly our Aussie one doesn't.


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I did say that what I wrote applies only to the UK and the EU, perhaps I should have explicitly said that USA, Australia, Korea, and Russia all expect end users to apply their own updates. It is only Hyundai in the EU and UK that have decided updates are dealer-only.
 

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Just my opinion, but if Hyundai didn't want the owner of the car to update the infotainment system themselves they would have hidden the update button in the service mode. As it is, it is right there for anyone to use. This week my Kona as been in to the service department to have the error logs downloaded, and no mention was made of the updated software.
 

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When you said profiles did you mean things like the temperature and air-going-where settings in the climate, the seat position, the radio choice + volume etc etc ?
 

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Thanks, Duncan, that's very helpful. :)

It just seems so 20th Century to have to go to the dealer for software updates! I guess I am too used to updating my Apple kit - click the button and let it just happen (or let it happen completely automatically if I choose) ...
 

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When you said profiles did you mean things like the temperature and air-going-where settings in the climate, the seat position, the radio choice + volume etc etc ?
Well, not seat positions, 'cos I couldn't really justify the cost of the Ultimate over the Premium!

Radio choice and settings, connected phone, satnav settings etc are a part of it - and it seems that they are covered by the choice of User 1 and User 2 in the infotainment system. (And as I like the satnav to show North up, and my other half insists it must be direction of travel up, then that's certainly a win!). However, I was thinking more of the car and driving settings - mirror positions, default driving mode, what driver assistance systems are on by default, that kind of thing - and I can't find any indication that any of these are separated by user, which is a shame, especially as there are two separate keys, which in my BMW do actually store some of the car setting and driver preferences on a per-key - in other words, per driver! - basis.

As I long-time software developer, I perhaps take a specialist view, but I do find it interesting that despite a lot of very clever software in both the car and the infotainment, they haven't really integrated the two systems.
 

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Well, not seat positions, 'cos I couldn't really justify the cost of the Ultimate over the Premium!

Radio choice and settings, connected phone, satnav settings etc are a part of it - and it seems that they are covered by the choice of User 1 and User 2 in the infotainment system. (And as I like the satnav to show North up, and my other half insists it must be direction of travel up, then that's certainly a win!). However, I was thinking more of the car and driving settings - mirror positions, default driving mode, what driver assistance systems are on by default, that kind of thing - and I can't find any indication that any of these are separated by user, which is a shame, especially as there are two separate keys, which in my BMW do actually store some of the car setting and driver preferences on a per-key - in other words, per driver! - basis.

As I long-time software developer, I perhaps take a specialist view, but I do find it interesting that despite a lot of very clever software in both the car and the infotainment, they haven't really integrated the two systems.
Kona doesn't have seat memory unless there's some trim level that I haven't heard of does.
I think Ioniq 5 does have seat memory and it's the same software so I guess the Kona may be lacking the hardware.

All of this is very personal of course. When I had an i3 I set it up so that both keys were on the same user profile because it got too frustrating that the profile went with whoever unlocked the car which often wasn't the same as whoever was driving.
 

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As I long-time software developer, I perhaps take a specialist view, but I do find it interesting that despite a lot of very clever software in both the car and the infotainment, they haven't really integrated the two systems.
Ah, in that case :
wait until you have a play with the blue link app, then you'll pull your hair out at how it is laid out and what it does and doesn't tell you / let you do

eg the car dashboard will tell you what speed it's charging at --- the app won't
 

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Kona doesn't have seat memory unless there's some trim level that I haven't heard of does.
I think Ioniq 5 does have seat memory and it's the same software so I guess the Kona may be lacking the hardware.

All of this is very personal of course. When I had an i3 I set it up so that both keys were on the same user profile because it got too frustrating that the profile went with whoever unlocked the car which often wasn't the same as whoever was driving.
Well, I didn't know whether the Kona had seat memory or not - but as only the Ultimate has electric seats, and I'm not getting one, whether not Kona Electric seats have memory is a bit academic for me! :)

I can see your problem with the keys - but I was less interested in using the key to identify which user is driving than in finding a separate store for each user's information - and the key might be a convenient way of doing that. If they wanted to be clever about it they'd use a fingerprint reader on the start button to permit the driver to identify him/herself, otherwise it would have to have be be a selection from a menu somewhere ...
 
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