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Now is the time I really need to look into this wall charger business, but I am always slightly confused with different configurations.
Could someone please recommend what set up I should have?
I need to mount it outside of the garage as mine is full of junk inside, should I just go for the British Gas untethered 32A type 2 wall box?
 

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Yes, for the Model S you have two options
- 32 amp charging station with a type 2 socket
- 32 amp charging station with a type 2 tethered cable.

The socketed station will give you the ability to charge all EVs and future proofs it but does require you to either have a second cable always used for that or to use the cable stored in the car each day.
The tethered option is probably easier for day to day usage but is not compatible with some other EVs that use type 1 charging (e.g. Nissan Leaf, Mitsubuishi Outlander etc.)

Hope this helps.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply, does the socket have a cover to keep the rain out?
 

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I have a 30A Polar one, and it works fine. It's untethered, so I and am thinking about getting a second type-2 cable I leave in the car as a just in case measure.

There is an issue with scheduled charging if you have Economy 7, in that the car drops back to 16A (I *think* this affects all cars that don't have the dual charger option). It is a known bug, but it's still not fixed. Hopefully it will be by the time your car arrives.

Up to you if you want to line the pockets of a big corporate, or go for someone more independent. (BG are likely to sub the work out anyway). I got it sorted by Mark @nuWorld Energy here on the forum after being messed about by Chargemaster and a local sparky chancing the OLEV rules.

The guys were great, I texted them photos of the consumer unit, and where I wanted the cable running, and they were in and out in double quick time, no mess, and a neat job.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply, does the socket have a cover to keep the rain out?
Yes. They will be fully waterproof for outside conditions.
I have heard quite a few stories of BG having average - poor customer service so do see if other companies can do it quicker and better.
@nuWorld Energy and @Thomas_Newby are both trusted and reliable installers if they will cover your area...
 
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I am based in Manchester and have no problem supporting forum recommended members.

I would also like to check out different wall boxes as well before deciding.
 

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We have a couple of charge-station options and work regularly in Manchester (we cover the whole of the UK). There's a simple form on our website www.thephoenixworks.com or alternatively call 0113 8155366 and Gillian will be pleased to help.
 

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Out of interest is your consumer unit in the garage ?


I would also like to check out different wall boxes as well before deciding.
I'm getting one of these put in at the office...

http://homecharger.etrel.com/

I think it's the most stylish one you can get :) (but you won't get one for free ;) )



The common OLEV installed ones are the Polar, PodPoint, and Rolec units.

Polar:
http://thechargingpoint.azurewebsites.net/SiteMedia/images/5-mins-with-martell-embed-polarhome.jpg

Rolec:
http://www.rexelenergysolutions.co..../300x300/Rolec_Homecharge_Wallpod_300x300.jpg

PodPoint:
http://www.evmotion.co.uk/admin/data/img/uploads/photo.JPG


The British gas one is a black version of the Polar unit.
 

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Thank you Simon, I am liking the Polar, looks small and inconspicuous.

Yes the consumer unit is inside the garage, why?
 

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There are photos of various installations in our gallery, but it isn't exhaustive. The standard Rolec wall-pod is our most popular solution but we have other premium options too. Gillian will be able to send you the datasheets.
 

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Out of interest is your consumer unit in the garage ?




I'm getting one of these put in at the office...

http://homecharger.etrel.com/

I think it's the most stylish one you can get :) (but you won't get one for free ;) )


Simon I do agree the etrel unit is really swish but I've been told it can't report back data in present form (so doesn't satisfy olev and get the discount) = too pricey for me..

I have ordered a teathered pod point with stand as don't have a wall to fix to (c/o chris Everett at evchargingsolutions.co.uk).
 

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Simon I do agree the etrel unit is really swish but I've been told it can't report back data in present form (so doesn't satisfy olev and get the discount) = too pricey for me..

I have ordered a teathered pod point with stand as don't have a wall to fix to (c/o chris Everett at evchargingsolutions.co.uk).
You are right, it's not suitable for the OLEV grant (which was moot in my case as they only apply to individuals anyway.)

It's going to be on the front wall of our office, near the reception entrance. so the look of it was important. We've gone for a 22kW unit, which outside of post types limited the choice.

We managed to get funding from our local council as they have a "sustainable transport" grant budget. So it was wasn't pricey at all ;)

There have been some delays with the 22kW units. Fortunately Chris @evcharging (who is dealing with our install too) has kept us well informed of.
 

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I finally have the installation date for my home charger on 3rd of June, looking forward to that very smart wall box(can't remember brand name now?) by Phoenix works, my decision is based purely on recommendations and their locality to me.

Things are slowly coming together now.

The box would have to be on the outside, I wanted it to be discrete, so ideally it should be mounted on the side of the house, but it would mean I have to dangle the charging cable across the front of the house to plug into my car.

So I am thinking of mounting the wall box directly on the front in full view of anyone just walking pass my house, what are the members opinions on installing the wall box on the front of the house?

Do you think it might be an eye sore or might attract unwanted attentions?
 

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Tethered or socket?

My best EV purchase was a second cable for my socketed unit. However with a socketed option, you'd also need a neat way to secure the cable on the front of the house.

Reducing the time and effort to charge really can't be underestimated, and fetching the cable from another location (even the boot of the car) soon gets frustrating.
 

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if its the one i'm thinking of the wall box youre refering to looks smart and is lockable but imo its a major pain in the arse going with an untethered unit.

i know i would get very bored very quickly with having to get the cable out of boot (or garage?) and then put back after charging (particulary if its crap weather).


i have a 7kw tethered podpoint unit that i like alot, the round design means the cable is pretty much hidden when not in use - and theres a nice little holster thing for the type 2 plug to fit in that can be mounted on wall next to unit (i have it on side of the post).

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Its a untethered unit with the socket at the side, I don't think its lockable ? You could see the unit shown on Phoenix site.

I can't for the life of me remember the name, its at the tip of my tongue, really annoying!!

Edit: just remember now, its a ABL unit :D
 
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