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In my quest for voice control over my 1-zone a/c I saw another forum post that stated: "All ID.3's are fitted with the necessary equipment to have 2-Zone climate. However, it is not activated in the Life, Business, Style and Tech models".

If true that is a bit of an 'Aha!' moment, having read elsewhere that VW would use OTA to sell us the activation of new features. So, if I had heating voice control would I pay for just going from 1-zone to 2-zone a/c? Maybe not - but in my current state of no 2-zone, no Smart Climate, no a/c voice control; would I pay to get that as a package? Maybe yes!

So I now think that a minimal 1-zone a/c system may not be just an oversight but it could be part of a marketing strategy to hold back certain bundles of features which can be offered for upgrade. I can see the VW 'We Upgrade' product manager rubbing his/her hands together and adding me to the ID3 upgrade sales forecast!

So, a/c upgrade now seems possible, but what else might VW offer? Perhaps some form of 'Travel Assist'? What do you think?

And if that VW product manager reads this forum then an urgent request has probably now gone to engineering demanding a way to offer rear speakers as an OTA upgrade!! 馃槀 馃槀
 

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VAG are notorious for this, just search to see what VCDS can do and you will see that the cars are capable of doing much more than when they come out of the factory.

Clearly the hardware would need to be in place though, VAG do not include redundant hardware (or even the wiring looms for it) for those 'just in case' the customer may want to upgrade later.

I will interrogate our Tour when it arrives, however being top spec already most of the useful bits should already be activated already (I bet there will be certain stuff that will 'need' doing though.)
 

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VAG are notorious for this, just search to see what VCDS can do and you will see that the cars are capable of doing much more than when they come out of the factory.

Clearly the hardware would need to be in place though, VAG do not include redundant hardware (or even the wiring looms for it) for those 'just in case' the customer may want to upgrade later.

I will interrogate our Tour when it arrives, however being top spec already most of the useful bits should already be activated already (I bet there will be certain stuff that will 'need' doing though.)
Not just VAG, this has been common across the auto industry for many years.

When I owned a Ford Focus I bought a trip computer for it on eBay - unclip the dash trim and the connector for it was taped up behind.

Similarly on a Vauxhall Astra I bought a new indicator stalk with a cruise control button on the end, paid a friendly Vx mechanic to turn cruise control on for me and job done (clutch switch etc were already present and connected).
 

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Not just VAG, this has been common across the auto industry for many years.

When I owned a Ford Focus I bought a trip computer for it on eBay - unclip the dash trim and the connector for it was taped up behind.

Similarly on a Vauxhall Astra I bought a new indicator stalk with a cruise control button on the end, paid a friendly Vx mechanic to turn cruise control on for me and job done (clutch switch etc were already present and connected).
I know Ford and BMW include redundant wiring looms in the car, VAG don't, making some retro-fits a bit harder.
The clutch switch was probably already in use for the 'press clutch to start'.

The point I was trying to get across is that one piece of hardware will be used for multiple options, for example if the 'A5 camera' was included in the car for traffic sign recognition, then lane assist can be coded into work.

Silly things like the clock changing automatically for BST isn't usually coded, there are several things like that that can be changed.
 

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I read somewhere (probably here) that VAG are using a new encryption mechanism to prevent 3rd parties enabling extra functionality? If so hopefully a workaround can be found.

Audi have an on demand option to 'rent' extra functionality - I think the pricing may be a bit eye watering, but I suspect it is a sales opportunity that VAG and other manufacturers will be keen to grow

 

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Some info on the Audi options / pricing here:

 

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Audi have an on demand option to 'rent' extra functionality - I think the pricing may be a bit eye watering, but I suspect it is a sales opportunity that VAG and other manufacturers will be keen to grow
Interesting! Sounds like we could be seeing a similar model for ID3 features such as 2-zone a/c, Park Assist, Travel Assist etc.

It's going the way of software licensing where we buy annual licences rather than purchase outright (e.g. MS Office). It's a way for VAG to control their market and get an ongoing incremental revenue stream.
 

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I like the bit about offering extra range to customers who they notice are doing long journeys.

How will they do that then?

鈥淵ou know how we said you shouldn鈥檛 use the battery buffers? Well, bung us some Euros and you can now...鈥. 馃槀
That's basically what Tesla do for free when owners are in an evacuation area of the USA, either hurricane or wildfire.
 

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I like the bit about offering extra range to customers who they notice are doing long journeys.

How will they do that then?

鈥淵ou know how we said you shouldn鈥檛 use the battery buffers? Well, bung us some Euros and you can now...鈥. 馃槀

I just hope it鈥檚 not too long before they offer pay as you go rear speakers, for @loggamatt鈥檚 sake...
Might pay for the fancy lane follow assist (or travel assist, or whatever it's called) from the Techs if offered though!
 

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Might pay for the fancy lane follow assist (or travel assist, or whatever it's called) from the Techs if offered though!
Will that be possible? I have seen the 1st Max wich has travel assist and i can not see any extra sensors or whatever on the side of the car and all ID3 i've seen have the travel assist button on the steering but "offline"
 

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VW have said "if you have an ID.3 in the future, features such as travel assist, stop and go, lane assist, and ACC can be added on top" - so its a definite maybe!
 

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VW have said "if you have an ID.3 in the future, features such as travel assist, stop and go, lane assist, and ACC can be added on top" - so its a definite maybe!
That would be awesome, I just bought a 1st plus and the only thing that I wanted from max would be the Travel Assist
 

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It鈥檚 in German, so this is copied from Google Translate:


After delivery, the vehicle can be extended to include certain functions permanently or for a limited period of time. The option to expand the available functions at a later date depends on the country and is not available for all functions.
Depending on the vehicle model, comfort and infotainment functions as well as driver assistance systems can be activated and activated.
The activation of functions depends on the current state of construction of the vehicle. Activating functions is not possible in all markets and only for some vehicle models.
Before using the activated function, read and observe the respective information and warning notices in the operating instructions or in the digital operating instructions that may be provided.
When renting or selling the vehicle, inform the user or buyer about permanently activated functions and time-limited functions.
If the necessary hardware is not available in the vehicle for the function that can be activated, the hardware can in some cases be retrofitted by a qualified specialist company. Volkswagen recommends the Volkswagen partner.
If the necessary software for the activatable function is not available in the vehicle, the software can be upgraded via (鈫 software update). Depending on the type of software, this may be chargeable.


Data transfer 鈻 Enable functions Description
If the function is properly activated, it can be used until the end of the agreed term.
Identifier of an activated function.
Function disrupted or temporarily not available.
A cellular connection is required in the following cases: - To purchase the function
鈥擳o activate the function.
- To carry out activated functions that require permanent connectivity.
Functions that can be activated for the vehicle are described in these operating instructions or in the infotainment system, on the Volkswagen website or in your We Connect user account. Some functions do not require a description, e. B. Functions for changing the appearance or color of the infotainment system.
Activated functions are not tied to the term of the We Connect contract.

Data transfer 鈻 Activating functions Requirements for activating a function
  • A suitable infotainment system is installed in the vehicle.
  • The compatibility and performance of the hardware in the vehicle are ensured. - There is a valid We Connect contract between you and Volkswagen.
  • The vehicle is assigned to your We Connect user account.
  • Sufficient cell phone reception is available at the current location of the vehicle.
  • The electrical system in the vehicle is operational.
鈥12 volt vehicle battery is sufficiently charged.
- There is a factory-installed OCU or, in some countries, the We Connect control unit.

Data transfer 鈻 Activate functions Activities for activation
Do not drive the vehicle during an activation.
1. Switch on the ignition.
2. Confirm activation in the infotainment system.
3. Observe the information during activation in the infotainment system.
After successful activation it is necessary for some functions to switch the ignition off and on again. The function can then be used properly.
Before restarting the engine, read the message in the infotainment system about the completion of the activation. If the activation fails, please note the relevant information.

Data transfer 鈻 Activate functions Problem solutions
Where can I get functions that can be activated?
In a web shop that you can access via your We Connect user account.
Depending on the equipment, functions can also be purchased and activated directly via the infotainment system in the 鈥淚n-Car Shop鈥.
Function restrictions during activation The function is not available during activation.
After successful activation
Successful activation is displayed in the infotainment system.
When is the activated function available?
Depending on the activated function, it is available either immediately or only after the next driving cycle, i.e. ending and restoring operational readiness.
 
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