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Hello all! Newbie here looking to make the move into the brave new world of EVs.

We have decided to buy a second hand ENV200, the 24kw battery version (as it is all we can stretch to for the van features we need!).

We have read so much about all the pros and cons etc, and we still keep coming across new information that we didn't know.

So, what do you wish you knew before taking the plunge? Either when buying or once driving them? We keep getting told how bad an idea it is and how the batteries won't get us anywhere etc. We have read enough to be pretty sure that we will be fine, but knowledgeable comments are helpful. (All the negative ones have been from people who don't have them).

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Hello all! Newbie here looking to make the move into the brave new world of EVs.

We have decided to buy a second hand ENV200, the 24kw battery version (as it is all we can stretch to for the van features we need!).

We have read so much about all the pros and cons etc, and we still keep coming across new information that we didn't know.

So, what do you wish you knew before taking the plunge? Either when buying or once driving them? We keep getting told how bad an idea it is and how the batteries won't get us anywhere etc. We have read enough to be pretty sure that we will be fine, but knowledgeable comments are helpful. (All the negative ones have been from people who don't have them).

Thanks 馃槉
4 yearsof driving an eNV and my only complaint is the seats aren't very comfortable.
I also own an about 拢50k (new) T5 4motion that hardly ever gets used now, during the "Beast from the East" I commuted 120 miles a day into London. Even with the charging I had to do I still took the eNV over the VW......
 

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4 yearsof driving an eNV and my only complaint is the seats aren't very comfortable.
I also own an about 拢50k (new) T5 4motion that hardly ever gets used now, during the "Beast from the East" I commuted 120 miles a day into London. Even with the charging I had to do I still took the eNV over the VW......
Thanks! Just out of interest, why do you choose the env over the T5? Is it purely because it's better for the environment?
 

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Thanks! Just out of interest, why do you choose the env over the T5? Is it purely because it's better for the environment?
First day of the "Beast from the East" I decided to take the 4 wheel drive T5 (seemed stupid not to).....
When I went to leave the battery had died (you couldn't make it up). That wasn't the reason though, its took three hours to get home and that long pushing the clutch in and out in stop start traffic meant when I got home I could hardly stand. The e-NV is just a nicer place to be even with the charging on the way in and out, in all honesty coming out of London is so slow I need to stop for P anyway....
 

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First day of the "Beast from the East" I decided to take the 4 wheel drive T5 (seemed stupid not to).....
When I went to leave the battery had died (you couldn't make it up). That wasn't the reason though, its took three hours to get home and that long pushing the clutch in and out in stop start traffic meant when I got home I could hardly stand. The e-NV is just a nicer place to be even with the charging on the way in and out, in all honesty coming out of London is so slow I need to stop for P anyway....
Fair enough. Thankfully I will never have to deal with London traffic! Lol.

The biggest concern in this house is reaching the Cairngorms and Glencoe! We think we have sussed enough charging points to make it work feasibly though
 

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I've just purchased an E-NV200 combi, I am getting it on Sunday. I wanted one in 2018 and assumed that the release of the 40khw version would cause the prices to come down on the 24kwh ones, but they priced the new ones so high that it actually dragged the prices up. So much so, that the 2018 ones seem to be the same price now as they were when they were ex demos in 2018. However, this could have been because I was looking for a 7 seater which are rarer. In the end, I actually ended up getting an 18 month old 40khw!

Anyway, enough about me - I just thought I'd make a comment on the options as I struggled a bit comparing the different second hand vehicles available.

It took me a while to realise, there are 3 types of charger possible on the e-NV200 (3.3kW, 6.6kW and rapid 50kW) and on the original 24kwh version, only the 3.3kW came as standard but if the model name includes 'Plus' that means it has the 6.6kW charger and if it includes 'Rapid' it has the rapid charger - e.g. "Acenta Rapid Plus" has all three types of chargers but plain "Acenta" only has the 3.3.kW on board and "Acenta Rapid" has the 3.3kW and the rapid charger but no 6.6kW. They didn't use this naming convention on the 40kwh version.

The other optional upgrade that many people seem to rate highly is the winter pack, which gives you heated seats and steering wheel - enabling you to keep the rest of the heating off and therefore increase your driving range.

Another thing I suspected was that the CAP prices put more emphasis on mileage than I would expect for an EV. High mileage regularly charged EVs seem to have a great state of battery health and very little else wrong with them. So if a dealer isn't an EV specialist but is pricing based on CAP you may get a better deal on a higher mileage vehicle. My theory is based on a dataset of approximately five though - so this could be a complete fallacy!
 

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Fair enough. Thankfully I will never have to deal with London traffic! Lol.

The biggest concern in this house is reaching the Cairngorms and Glencoe! We think we have sussed enough charging points to make it work feasibly though
The range at worst is just over 50 miles, and at best just under 80, thats fully loaded with two blocks and 1/2 tonnes of tools and a roof rack and rail.... No regrets especially as its still worth about what I paid for it and costs almost nothing to run. No issues with it apart from a few of the plastic bits in the back getting knocked off......
 

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Hi Andy, it's a great van even with the 24kWh battery. I can't fault my van other then the small range but it rapid charges very.. er..rapidly, i.e no more than 20 mins at a 50kW charger to get back to around 80% so it may seem a bit inconvenient to keep stopping every other Rapid on the motorway but it takes around the same amount of time as if you had to charge a bigger battery with the same amount of energy....If you've read the threads on this forum you've probably stumbled across Glyn Hudson and his amazingly intrepid adventures in their converted 24kWh van. If you haven't then seek out his videos..Also you will be able to extend the range of the van when funds allow.
 

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I've just purchased an E-NV200 combi, I am getting it on Sunday. I wanted one in 2018 and assumed that the release of the 40khw version would cause the prices to come down on the 24kwh ones, but they priced the new ones so high that it actually dragged the prices up. So much so, that the 2018 ones seem to be the same price now as they were when they were ex demos in 2018. However, this could have been because I was looking for a 7 seater which are rarer. In the end, I actually ended up getting an 18 month old 40khw!

Anyway, enough about me - I just thought I'd make a comment on the options as I struggled a bit comparing the different second hand vehicles available.

It took me a while to realise, there are 3 types of charger possible on the e-NV200 (3.3kW, 6.6kW and rapid 50kW) and on the original 24kwh version, only the 3.3kW came as standard but if the model name includes 'Plus' that means it has the 6.6kW charger and if it includes 'Rapid' it has the rapid charger - e.g. "Acenta Rapid Plus" has all three types of chargers but plain "Acenta" only has the 3.3.kW on board and "Acenta Rapid" has the 3.3kW and the rapid charger but no 6.6kW. They didn't use this naming convention on the 40kwh version.

The other optional upgrade that many people seem to rate highly is the winter pack, which gives you heated seats and steering wheel - enabling you to keep the rest of the heating off and therefore increase your driving range.

Another thing I suspected was that the CAP prices put more emphasis on mileage than I would expect for an EV. High mileage regularly charged EVs seem to have a great state of battery health and very little else wrong with them. So if a dealer isn't an EV specialist but is pricing based on CAP you may get a better deal on a higher mileage vehicle. My theory is based on a dataset of approximately five though - so this could be a complete fallacy!
I hadn't quite noticed the 3 different! I had seen there were 2.

The one we are looking at is the Acenta Rapid Plus and it only has 11k miles on it! I think the dealer doesn't really know what they are looking at, so suits us fine! 馃槂
 

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I hadn't quite noticed the 3 different! I had seen there were 2.

The one we are looking at is the Acenta Rapid Plus and it only has 11k miles on it! I think the dealer doesn't really know what they are looking at, so suits us fine! 馃槂
What's the asking price?
 

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The range at worst is just over 50 miles, and at best just under 80, thats fully loaded with two blocks and 1/2 tonnes of tools and a roof rack and rail.... No regrets especially as its still worth about what I paid for it and costs almost nothing to run. No issues with it apart from a few of the plastic bits in the back getting knocked off......
We won't have much weight in it. Hill kit, maybe a couple of light bikes, a dog etc. No roof racks or heavy tools. Hopefully that will creep our range up a bit. Winter will be a bit more challenging, but we can plan accordingly.
 

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No, 24kw! Yes, vat still to add. Still a pretty good deal. We are going to see it as soon as they are open next week and I imagine we will take it pretty much on the spot unless there is a good reason that it's that price!
Thats dirt cheap, what spec?
Just before the first lock down I was offered 拢13300 plus vat for mine as a trade in.... mine is a Tekna plus 24kWh 66 plate
 

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Thats dirt cheap, what spec?
Just before the first lock down I was offered 拢13300 plus vat for mine as a trade in.... mine is a Tekna plus 24kWh 66 plate
Indeed, I hope we don't turn up and suddenly work out why it is so cheap! Lol

It's a 15 plate, Ascenta Rapid Plus.

The garage isn't in a hugely affluent area so I suspect they don't expect huge demand there and maybe want to clear forecourt space when they are allowed to reopen next week?

Anyway, hoping all is as good as it sounds when we see it.
 

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When I bought my 2016 e-NV200 24kWh Combi I wish I had known that the 40kWh version was not too far away.
Now at 85,000 miles and 82% State of health, I wish I had waited for the larger battery as I'm now rapid charging almost every day in winter to compete my work, even with the heater off.
I wish I'd known how difficult it was to get warranty repairs from Nissan, and how pricy out of warranty repairs were.
 

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When I bought my 2016 e-NV200 24kWh Combi I wish I had known that the 40kWh version was not too far away.
Now at 85,000 miles and 82% State of health, I wish I had waited for the larger battery as I'm now rapid charging almost every day in winter to compete my work, even with the heater off.
I wish I'd known how difficult it was to get warranty repairs from Nissan, and how pricy out of warranty repairs were.
What repairs have you needed?
 

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What repairs have you needed?
From dealer - Loose interior trim, leaking front door seals, damaged alloy wheels from use of knock on weights.
Up to now -
Nearside front wheel bearing (Partially covered by Nissan dealer, 拢150 cost to me).
Air conditioning fill pipes & regas due to leaking valves (would have been 拢700 out of warranty, I paid 拢180 for the regas, the dealer accepted the pipes) - 5 weeks for parts
Climate control fan (拢50 for a second hand unit and I fitted it myself)
Rear sliding windows (due to seal failure) - 拢200 for aftermarket non-sliding ones
DC-DC converter and Body Control Module CAN bus cabling - Covered under warranty, but only after a fight with Nissan head office, waited 6 weeks for the parts, would have been around 拢2000.
 
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