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I’m looking to purchase a second hand Nissan Leaf. I’ve found a 2017 acenta, 30kwh, 27,000 miles with a SOH of 94.89%. It’s £10,850, is this a reasonable price?
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Hi,
I’m looking to purchase a second hand Nissan Leaf. I’ve found a 2017 acenta, 30kwh, 27,000 miles with a SOH of 94.89%. It’s £10,850, is this a reasonable price?
Thanks
I picked up leaf30 Acenta 2 years ago with 91% SoH for 15k. Today is at 88% SoH and continues to meet needs. If the range is sufficient - 100 miles, go for it.

Check auto trader for similar to see if it's good enough or not. You can also check webuyanycar.com. My leaf is now valued at 8k by them

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Who's selling it, private or trade? If the latter indy or main dealer?
 

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Well then that looks like a great deal to me. And of course your warranty for battery (and drivetrain?) is 8 years. Hmmm, drivetrain might be just 5. As usual someone here will tell me I'm talking bollox in a millisecond flat.

Driven it yet?

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Personally the soh looks high and I'm wondering if some dealers are wise to what's going on and maybe resetting the BMS, running it a little and letting the soh drop before sticking it up. There's one case of this I've seen mentioned where the soh dropped like a rock over 2 months after the bought it and finally settled down with 1 bar lost...
Only the nissan tool can reset this as well so only their dealers and a nissan specialist are likely to have it and the ability to do it.
 

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Personally the soh looks high and I'm wondering if some dealers are wise to what's going on and maybe resetting the BMS, running it a little and letting the soh drop before sticking it up. There's one case of this I've seen mentioned where the soh dropped like a rock over 2 months after the bought it and finally settled down with 1 bar lost...
Only the nissan tool can reset this as well so only their dealers and a nissan specialist are likely to have it and the ability to do it.
94% for 24k is odd.. could have 6A firmware though

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94% for 24k is odd
OP said 27k and SOH is actually nearer 95%, which means even odder I think.
I didn't quite understand the 6A firmware reference, is this to do with the BMS upgrade thingy?
My Acenta 30 was 3yo when I bought in June and 22k and after a few weeks I checked with Spy and it had 92%. That has dropped drastically in 3 months though, to around 89 which tallies with the theory expounded by KingPleb1.
 

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Yes it's for the firmware but the later 2017 ZE0's had it from the factory.

Lockdown has taken a big bit on cars and I think we will see lots slightly lower than they should be and climbing back up quickly as they get used more often.
 

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94% for 24k is odd.. could have 6A firmware though
My 2016 30kWh Tekna was at 92.4% at 24k miles when I bought it three months ago, and although it has fluctuated a bit in the three months since then with charging and use patterns it is currently sitting at 91.6%. So a year newer for 2% better seems reasonable.

When cared for (battery not regularly overheated or left at high SoC for a long time) degradation rates on Leaf's seem to be related to age more than mileage.
 

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My 2016 30kWh Tekna was at 92.4% at 24k miles when I bought it three months ago, and although it has fluctuated a bit in the three months since then with charging and use patterns it is currently sitting at 91.6%. So a year newer for 2% better seems reasonable.

When cared for (battery not regularly overheated or left at high SoC for a long time) degradation rates on Leaf's seem to be related to age more than mileage.
My personal experience, we picked up Leaf at 91% SoH, firmware update pushed it to 96% and 2 years on, it is at 88%.

We do 1500-1800 miles a month and battery is fully charged 5 of 7 days, on other days I tend to charge it to 80%. Battery has really overheated once last summer.

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Yes it's for the firmware but the later 2017 ZE0's had it from the factory.

Lockdown has taken a big bit on cars and I think we will see lots slightly lower than they should be and climbing back up quickly as they get used more often.
4NR6A firmware when new, reported over 100% SoH for months. For most when mine (4NR4A back then) was in low 90s theirs was still in high 90s. Even after update to 4NR4C, mine never when as high as most with 6A

I’ve seen some (with 6A) reporting severe degradation with that over the last year though


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It's only going to get worse as the firmware patch can't fix the underlying issue so the 40kwh packs will be the way forward and an easy warranty win for nissan as 30kwh packs still hold semi decent used values.
 

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I’ve seen some (with 6A) reporting severe degradation with that over the last year though
Mines 6A. Was on 91-92% when i bought it a year ago, now its hovering around 85. Still currently has all bars, but for how long? 54k miles on the clock.
 

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It's only going to get worse as the firmware patch can't fix the underlying issue so the 40kwh packs will be the way forward and an easy warranty win for nissan as 30kwh packs still hold semi decent used values.
Semi decent values ? 7k depreciation for Leaf30 in 2 years - that's at par with any other car to be honest :)

We are keeping the Leaf30 until it it no longer meets our daily usage pattern - 65 miles a day with 40 on motorway.
 
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