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Hey there!

I'm wanting to purchase my first EV car but I'm a bit uncertain about a few things. I live in the UK and my budget is around £10,000. So far, I've narrowed it down to these two options, example and example 2

I wanted to ask whether I should be prioritizing age or mileage? I'm not the type to care for the latest model, just something that is reliable.

Any advice would be much appreciated :) I'm so excited to get my first EV but I want to make sure that I make the right choice.
 

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Get yourself a dongle and LeafSpy and check those packs before parting with cash.

Also consider battery warranty the 30kw will still have 4 years of the battery warranty left.

What range do you need from the car?
 

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I would be a bit concerned that the 30kWh Acenta is sitting with an empty battery. That's not a good thing at all.

In abstract, if well cared for, the 30kWh would generally be preferred. Not sure that this particular example is going to prove to be a good choice.

In general I'd prefer an "average" or slightly above average mileage example to one with an unusually low mileage. Certainly don't pay a premium for a "low mileage" example.
 

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I would be a bit concerned that the 30kWh Acenta is sitting with an empty battery. That's not a good thing at all.

In abstract, if well cared for, the 30kWh would generally be preferred. Not sure that this particular example is going to prove to be a good choice.

In general I'd prefer an "average" or slightly above average mileage example to one with an unusually low mileage. Certainly don't pay a premium for a "low mileage" example.
I nearly wrote exactly the same thing that it was sat there for who knows how long with a battery so low the GOM was blank!
Not a dealer that knows EV’s that’s for sure.
 

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In a slightly different scenario, my 14 plate, 50,000 mile Env200 was written off recently when someone ran into the back of it.

Most 14/64/15 plate vehicles on Autotrader had around 10,000 miles on the clock which I found slightly worrying.

I eventually found a 64 plate van with 31,000 miles which I felt a lot more comfortable with. It was also a little cheaper which is a bonus.

As mentioned above, lower mileages will still attract a premium although, unlike ICE in general, this isn’t necessarily a good thing in the EV world.
 

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Thanks for your replies! Are lower mileage EVs concerning because they might have been sitting out of action for so long?
 

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Get yourself a dongle and LeafSpy and check those packs before parting with cash.

Also consider battery warranty the 30kw will still have 4 years of the battery warranty left.

What range do you need from the car?
That's a good shout. My commute is 50 miles every day to work, but with a charge station at home/work, I think it might be okay to still go for a 24?
 

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The worry with a low mileage is that it has been kept sat plugged in at 100% and driven at weekends which is worse for the battery than being driven.

Is that 50 miles round trip? If so and having a charger it sounds ideal. But better to also have a back up in case someone else gets an ev and you cannot plug in. Any rapids near your work?
 

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Ah okay, thanks for explaining that.

Yep, that's 50 miles round trip. Ideally will be getting a charger at home (example 2 actually comes with a pod point charger),
 

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Hi blackcat0 - Not surprised you are confused. I have had a 24Kw Accenta and am just changing from a 30KW Tekna to a 62kW. When I made the change from 24 -30 the difference was quite dramatic in terms of overall flexibility and reduction in the need to use rapid chargers. Whilst your fuel costs will be far lower than an ice whatever you do, the ability to charge from home on a low rate tarriff (Octopus Go or Agile) will cut your costs to negligible levels. If you can find a car with a 6.6kW charger that too will make your life better, because you will be able to fully charge in the low cost night time window. I wouldn't worry too much about the mileage, since there are likely to be problems with under useage as much as with being well used. If you can get Leaf spy on it, that should reveal any disasters. Make sure you get the right dongle - I'm just trying to sort out a mess made by a new Konnwei K902. Go for the LELlink one. You will be getting a super reliable car anyway, and enjoy quiet motoring.
 

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Hi blackcat0 - Not surprised you are confused. I have had a 24Kw Accenta and am just changing from a 30KW Tekna to a 62kW. When I made the change from 24 -30 the difference was quite dramatic in terms of overall flexibility and reduction in the need to use rapid chargers. Whilst your fuel costs will be far lower than an ice whatever you do, the ability to charge from home on a low rate tarriff (Octopus Go or Agile) will cut your costs to negligible levels. If you can find a car with a 6.6kW charger that too will make your life better, because you will be able to fully charge in the low cost night time window. I wouldn't worry too much about the mileage, since there are likely to be problems with under useage as much as with being well used. If you can get Leaf spy on it, that should reveal any disasters. Make sure you get the right dongle - I'm just trying to sort out a mess made by a new Konnwei K902. Go for the LELlink one. You will be getting a super reliable car anyway, and enjoy quiet motoring.
Out of interest David, what happened with the Konnwei?
 

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Personally I prefer higher miles, it means it's not been sat at 100% or high states of charge for long periods.

Worse scenarios I've seen are some ex dealer showroom cars that have sat at a Low SoC for months on end before being swapped out. Those ex demo cars won't have a good battery life for sure.
 

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Hi blackcat0 - Not surprised you are confused. I have had a 24Kw Accenta and am just changing from a 30KW Tekna to a 62kW. When I made the change from 24 -30 the difference was quite dramatic in terms of overall flexibility and reduction in the need to use rapid chargers. Whilst your fuel costs will be far lower than an ice whatever you do, the ability to charge from home on a low rate tarriff (Octopus Go or Agile) will cut your costs to negligible levels. If you can find a car with a 6.6kW charger that too will make your life better, because you will be able to fully charge in the low cost night time window. I wouldn't worry too much about the mileage, since there are likely to be problems with under useage as much as with being well used. If you can get Leaf spy on it, that should reveal any disasters. Make sure you get the right dongle - I'm just trying to sort out a mess made by a new Konnwei K902. Go for the LELlink one. You will be getting a super reliable car anyway, and enjoy quiet motoring.
Hi David, thanks for your reply. I'll bare that in mind, since I have a 50 mile all-round commute, which is a bit lengthy. I've bought a LELlink, since there were some mixed reviews for the Konnweis and LELink looked a bit more consistent.
 

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Personally I prefer higher miles, it means it's not been sat at 100% or high states of charge for long periods.

Worse scenarios I've seen are some ex dealer showroom cars that have sat at a Low SoC for months on end before being swapped out. Those ex demo cars won't have a good battery life for sure.
Thanks for your advice. Looks like that's exactly what example 1 is doing! :eek:
 

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I would suggest you stretch your budget a bit and get a Leaf 30 with around 40K miles. It sounds like you will do around 15K miles a year, so that would allow you to keep 4 years before it hit 100K. At that age and mileage you could be as low as 66% (lost a third) so probably be time to move it on.

Is the £10K because you have that cash? I wouldn't be shy about taking some finance as your monthly fuel savings would easily cover the payments.

Ideally try and find cars at EV savy or specialist dealers as they are usually equipped to tell you the battery health. They are likely to take offers at present too as many have stock they want to shift.

It is higher mileage, but in your shoes I would make an offer on this Kia Soul as the battery is far better managed than any Leaf and it still has factory warranty. Both Leaf and Soul are marmite cars - personally I like Soul but hate old style Leaf.

 

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Before Leaf lovers start asking where I got 66% from it is approx as shown below, unfortunately I don't remember where I got it from. The end point is 100K miles and 8 years old.

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I would suggest you stretch your budget a bit and get a Leaf 30 with around 40K miles. It sounds like you will do around 15K miles a year, so that would allow you to keep 4 years before it hit 100K. At that age and mileage you could be as low as 66% (lost a third) so probably be time to move it on.

Is the £10K because you have that cash? I wouldn't be shy about taking some finance as your monthly fuel savings would easily cover the payments.

Ideally try and find cars at EV savy or specialist dealers as they are usually equipped to tell you the battery health. They are likely to take offers at present too as many have stock they want to shift.

It is higher mileage, but in your shoes I would make an offer on this Kia Soul as the battery is far better managed than any Leaf and it still has factory warranty. Both Leaf and Soul are marmite cars - personally I like Soul but hate old style Leaf.

That’s exactly what I did, I had an original budget of 10k but then calculated I’d be saving £350 a month on fuel!!!!

Actually got a loan before I did the calculation but put the rest on my card and did a few hours overtime for the rest, glad I did as I’ll now keep my car for 4-5 years
 

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I would suggest you stretch your budget a bit and get a Leaf 30 with around 40K miles. It sounds like you will do around 15K miles a year, so that would allow you to keep 4 years before it hit 100K. At that age and mileage you could be as low as 66% (lost a third) so probably be time to move it on.

Is the £10K because you have that cash? I wouldn't be shy about taking some finance as your monthly fuel savings would easily cover the payments.

Ideally try and find cars at EV savy or specialist dealers as they are usually equipped to tell you the battery health. They are likely to take offers at present too as many have stock they want to shift.

It is higher mileage, but in your shoes I would make an offer on this Kia Soul as the battery is far better managed than any Leaf and it still has factory warranty. Both Leaf and Soul are marmite cars - personally I like Soul but hate old style Leaf.

Thanks for your reply. To be honest, I hadn't really considered another EV aside from the Leaf as this was the only one I was familiar with around the 10k budget, but I can stretch to 15k. Ideally I'd want to keep this car for awhile, so I'm wanting a car with longevity.

I've held onto my Peugeot 206 for 6 years now and don't care about trading in cars for just the purpose of features and the new factor :LOL:
 

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Thanks for your reply. To be honest, I hadn't really considered another EV aside from the Leaf as this was the only one I was familiar with around the 10k budget, but I can stretch to 15k. Ideally I'd want to keep this car for awhile, so I'm wanting a car with longevity.

I've held onto my Peugeot 206 for 6 years now and don't care about trading in cars for just the purpose of features and the new factor :LOL:
You have loads of choice then!!

I’m sure I even saw an owned battery Zoe in your price range.
 
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