As an MG owner I've voted MG on the basis they didn't really have much in the way of ICE engine development, and are mostly in a push to EV with a little side line in PHEV. If they can succeed in their current push, and that will require them to be stand up and be a bit more honest about their pack capacity going forward, I can see them doing well as they are not currently shackled with a long standing ICE trade like some of the big firms. The fact they have no Diesel in any of their line up probably helps their case too.
Which of the major manufactures will do the best by 2030?
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Although the poll doesn't allow for it, I fully expect Tesla to be the largest car manufacturer by 2030.
I expect VW group, and Chinese manufacturers to still be here with them. About 50% tp 70% of the rest will either be gone, or merged into larger groups for survival.
People generally don't yet fully understand what's about to happen to the ICE car over the next decade.
I expect VW group, and Chinese manufacturers to still be here with them. About 50% tp 70% of the rest will either be gone, or merged into larger groups for survival.
People generally don't yet fully understand what's about to happen to the ICE car over the next decade.
This is a poll just for the legacy automakers, the ones who have to transition from ICE to electric. Obviously, the growth of companies like Tesla, Xpeng, BYD, Nio ect will outstrip probably all of these companies as they don't have the burden of an internal combustion legacy.Although the poll doesn't allow for it, I fully expect Tesla to be the largest car manufacturer by 2030.
I expect VW group, and Chinese manufacturers to still be here with them. About 50% tp 70% of the rest will either be gone, or merged into larger groups for survival.
People generally don't yet fully understand what's about to happen to the ICE car over the next decade.
It's certainly going to be interesting isn't it. I think it remains to be seen whether scale and breadth, thinking Stellantis, is a positive or a negative. Is a group like that just weighed down by lots of legacy investment. I don't see Tesla picking up that much of the industry. The cars just don't seem to be good enough. We also don't really know whether the likes of Hyundai/Kia, having proven they can make very good EVs, are able to pivot into just EVs or whether legacy thinking holds things back.Although the poll doesn't allow for it, I fully expect Tesla to be the largest car manufacturer by 2030.
I expect VW group, and Chinese manufacturers to still be here with them. About 50% tp 70% of the rest will either be gone, or merged into larger groups for survival.
People generally don't yet fully understand what's about to happen to the ICE car over the next decade.
VW appear to be in a really strong position but there's apparently been remarkable political infighting there. It's still possible for them to royally screw it up. They're big, and they've invested big into EV, but that scale could work against them if they get it wrong.
Interesting. I used to think so too until 6 months ago. But I feel their advantages are fading. It is only an opinion of course but here are my considerations:Although the poll doesn't allow for it, I fully expect Tesla to be the largest car manufacturer by 2030.
I expect VW group, and Chinese manufacturers to still be here with them. About 50% tp 70% of the rest will either be gone, or merged into larger groups for survival.
People generally don't yet fully understand what's about to happen to the ICE car over the next decade.
- I do not think their FSD solution is the best, and I am skeptical as to the feasibility of FSD in general, except for geofenced parts
- They do not have flexible platforms, so development of new models costs them a lot of time and money. Comparre VW that are issuing dozens of models over the coming years
- The philopsphy of Tesla is very much oriented towards early adopters. I believe the general public does not like the concept of an all-in-one display and no physica controls
- Too many build issues and no proper service infrastructure to allow support on millions of cars on the road
- The battery and drivetrain advantage is fading with respect to some competitors. Hyundai / Kia have a very good solution with the GMP platform and battery factories are being built across the globe. Tesla doesn't even do LFP (sourced from China) which is a promising technology for cheap, durable batteries and other technologies will come up that will be hard for Tesla to keep up with (Quantumscape, Storedot etc)
Yes the manufacturers are going to switch to making a very specific sort of 2030-exempt hybrid.People generally don't yet fully understand what's about to happen to the ICE car over the next decade.
When VW have gone into the bicycle industry you know the dominance of the motor car is coming to an end.
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These are now in manufacture and available to buy in Germany.
Forget about getting your internet shopping delivered by vans, last mile logistics will become huge and e-cargobikes will lead the charge.
These are now in manufacture and available to buy in Germany.
Forget about getting your internet shopping delivered by vans, last mile logistics will become huge and e-cargobikes will lead the charge.
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