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Successful enough to earn enough to buy a Taycan
My prejudices say inherited wealth and influence. :devilish:
The story sounds "embellished" to me and part of the legacy motoring world's (particularly the irrelevant RAC and the AA which are businesses and no longer for their members) pushback against EVs.
 
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If this were a petrol car they could have easily completed the trip without fuss. There is a point to be made about the absolutely shoddy rubbish public charging is in many places.

Setting out with 20-25% battery (I'm guessing that's what 45 mile range equates to) was a bit silly but petrol car users don't have all this amount of crap to get fuel do they? Turn up at one and it just works. No fuss at all.
 

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Successful enough to earn enough to buy a Taycan, but couldn’t be arsed to do 15 minutes research on charging points.

Nor spend £500 on a home charger. Living in Bournemouth.
Spot on, apart from the fact that they don't live in Bournemouth, and I can't see anywhere in the article where it says they don't have a home charge point?
 

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So they should have bought a Tesla rather than a Porsche as clearly the Ionity network that Porsche are partners of is not fit for purpose. :devilish:
Would they get that sort of write up if say the clutch failed in their ICE? :p
 

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Spot on, apart from the fact that they don't live in Bournemouth, and I can't see anywhere in the article where it says they don't have a home charge point?
Don't let the facts undermine the comment.
They started a journey with insufficient fuel and relied on the car to bail them out. Their thinking was also too muddy to work out a solution and the Porsche dealer was useless.
 

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I read it more as a failure of the navigation in the car. It’s not unreasonable to set off on a journey, get there with 40-odd miles left, then when you’re heading home let the car take you to a charge point en route. Unfortunately Porsche probably use the same horrible database as most, with confusing “fast” terminology, that took them to different places than most of us would use.

I wouldn’t check an app on my phone for petrol stations before setting off in an ICE car, and wouldn’t blame someone for relying on something built into the car that’s supposed to help them out.
 

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I wouldn’t check an app on my phone for petrol stations before setting off in an ICE car, and wouldn’t blame someone for relying on something built into the car that’s supposed to help them out.
Strange how times change. 30 years ago I used to drive from North London to near Aberdeen on a Saturday night/Sunday morning. Very few petrol stations were open at that time and pre-planning was essential. Later I had a car with sufficient capacity to do it without refueling. Now with an EV I'd need to plan and would have plans A-D for each stop.
Porsche as a company let them down, the charging network they provide is inadequate and the software incapable of correctly directing them. I know my LEAF is worse and that I need to compensate by using third party apps such as Zap-Map. But where is the responsibility for the owner explained?
 

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Out of interest I just checked Zapmap as if I was about to leave Bournemouth for a longish trip when my range was down to 45 miles at the start. My instinct would be to fill before leaving and ABRP did concur. There are seven Rapids within the local area. But six are shown as not working and only an Instavolt site in Boscombe was giving green lights. The next Rapid is at Ringwood some 60 miles away and, guess what, also listed as out of action. Meaning that there would be a single chance to leave the Bournemouth area without resorting to a long stay at a 7kW post. And whilst Instavolt happens to be my 'go-to' choice it would then encourage an hours charge to avoid a second stop. Rather than my preference to stop frequently to take advantage of a low SOC and gain charge speed.

So, to be fair to these people who apparently hadn't planned too deeply I also have much sympathy as the Rapid situation down there does appear to be dire. It's not clear from the narrative what their itinerary was in the previous hours. Perhaps an overnighter. Perhaps a day trip. But I would have known in advance of travelling from Kent what the situation was concerning re-charging to get home. And that might have caused me to arrive there with a pretty full charge so that I could escape from that electron desert without too much distress.

But the message is still clear. Whether you have sympathy for them or not. The report is accurate when discussing the abysmal charging situation in various pockets of the country. And as long as such media reports are able to be produced many people will steer clear of changing to electric until forced by later legislation.
 

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Come on folks, less of the Porsche couple bashing. :rolleyes:

You have to admit that with charging stations, either they're not compatible with your car, or they even work when you arrive. The Government have done absolutely nowt to change that and bring in a standard that manufacturers can work to, or the charging companies that run the network repair them within a defined period. Can you imagine the outcry from motorists if petrol stations had faulty pumps, it would be front page news.

Part of the reason we went for a BMW Rex is for that very reason. Most electric journeys are under 50 miles which is fine. Go outside that and you're in to uncharted territory and good luck to you.

It can't be outside the realm of possibility to remove the licences of charging station operators, a bit like train companies if they don't do what they are supposed to.
 

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Why do these things keep breaking down?

Can you imagine this situation in a shop? Oh dear, the till had lost its electric supply, I cannot ring up your goods.

Oh dear, the supply is back and I can ring up your goods but I can’t accept your card because I’ve lost connectivity.

It’s a pole in the ground with a plug, a meter and some communication.

What am I missing?
 
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