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I’m hoping someone can help or advise. As we’ve now bought out our PCPd Zoe, I’m thinking of getting a set of winter tyres which I’ll look to use half the year.


My intention is to pick up a set of steel wheels and put winter tyres on these however I’m aware that my car has the TPMS system fitted.


First question, if I were to run a set of 4 steel wheels with Winter tyres, what can I expect from the TPMS system. Will it bong at me constantly or stay silent as the genuine alloys will be in storage.


If the latter, I’ve noticed the stud pattern is similar to that of the Clio. Would a set of steel Clio wheels work for me on the Zoe?


Anyone know where to source a new set of steel wheels?


Finally, any recommendations for winter tyres?


Many thanks in advance.
 

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You need the Zoe PCD and centre bore size

As to how the tpms deals... take a wheel off and move it some distance from the car :)

I personally don’t see the need for winters in the U.K. but that’s just me :)

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I run winter steels with a 2nd TPMS set. Car can be programmed for two separate sets.

Regarding requirement for winter tyres, there was a two day, twenty mile tailback on the M8 only a few years ago. With proper winter tyres, this would never have happened.

If using wheels from a "different" vehicle, even if another Renault. check for correct offset.
 

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Note, Oponeo list NEW steel wheels Eurasteel 15-7777 for £39 each which appear to have correct spec for rim size, width, offset, PCD, center-bore etc. Obviously make your own detailed checks.
 

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I run winter steels with a 2nd TPMS set. Car can be programmed for two separate sets.

Regarding requirement for winter tyres, there was a two day, twenty mile tailback on the M8 only a few years ago. With proper winter tyres, this would never have happened.

If using wheels from a "different" vehicle, even if another Renault. check for correct offset.
May I ask.... are you using a second set of Zoe alloys for your winter set? I’ve been reliably informed the PCD and offset is identical to that of the Clio but I will of course check before ordering.


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Alloys across the same car can have different offsets

A spare wheel will not have the same offset as an alloy.
A steel wheel will not have the same offset as an alloy.

Just make sure the wheels you buy fit - there are offset calculator websites that tell you how different offsets and widths will work.

I went from 7” wide alloys to 9.5” wide and the offset was different and it all worked to fit.

There is no way anyone can state categorically that winter tyres would have stopped that accident. I don’t disagree that they will help but the person behind the wheel is the main contributing factor. Especially on a motorway where predicting the road ahead is way easier.


I was pulled out on in snow recently. I could see the guy was contemplating it. I’d already started my gentle reduction in speed before he made the decision. When he did pull out I was able to scrub speed effectively without breaking. Looking ahead and reading the road and conditions is the most important thing when driving in any conditions and using specialists tyres to compensate for that isn’t the best approach.

Winters aqualplane worse than normal tyres so need to swap them off as soon as the road temps increase

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To respond to previous post, gentle reminder that the friction devices that slow the car are known as BRAKES.
Using these devices is known as BRAKING.
 

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Alloys across the same car can have different offsets

A spare wheel will not have the same offset as an alloy.
A steel wheel will not have the same offset as an alloy.

Just make sure the wheels you buy fit - there are offset calculator websites that tell you how different offsets and widths will work.

I went from 7” wide alloys to 9.5” wide and the offset was different and it all worked to fit.

There is no way anyone can state categorically that winter tyres would have stopped that accident. I don’t disagree that they will help but the person behind the wheel is the main contributing factor. Especially on a motorway where predicting the road ahead is way easier.


I was pulled out on in snow recently. I could see the guy was contemplating it. I’d already started my gentle reduction in speed before he made the decision. When he did pull out I was able to scrub speed effectively without breaking. Looking ahead and reading the road and conditions is the most important thing when driving in any conditions and using specialists tyres to compensate for that isn’t the best approach.

Winters aqualplane worse than normal tyres so need to swap them off as soon as the road temps increase

JJ
I appreciate your thoughts however I’ve had winter tyres on both my Subaru STI and my VW Scirocco and personal experience has shown that although you’ll never be able to stop like on a dry hot summers day, winter tyres DO make a significant difference to both braking and steering inputs both in colder (single digit) temperatures and (worst scenario) snow or ice lined roads.

My wife uses the Zoe daily for her commute and to be honest, the £300-400 spent is money well spent just for the peace of mind that my lesser experienced partner is less likely to end up in a ditch.

If we continue to have warm autumn days well into December, the new wheels and tyres will simply sit in the garage until needed.

I do appreciate that due to the design of winter tyre tread patterns, aqua planning is more likely however I’d hope by now my missus has learnt not to slam on the brakes at the last minute.

With regards to offsets, I was planning to using the exact same offsets as the original alloy wheels fitted and would hope that the supplier could advise me accordingly to find an exact figment. Thanks for the heads up though..... it is appreciated.


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To respond to previous post, gentle reminder that the friction devices that slow the car are known as BRAKES.
Using these devices is known as BRAKING.
Any recommendations and/or idea on price for a second set of TPMS?


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I personally don’t see the need for winters in the U.K. but that’s just me
A comment from someone that lives below the 57th Parallel. ;)

Where I stay its 50/50 on winters. I'd like to have a set, but I refuse to spend upwards of £500 for tyres that I only need for a few months a year.
 

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I don't think the Zoe has direct TPMS with special valves. I understood it used the indirect method by looking at wheel rotation, etc.

See What is TPMS? | Bridgestone Tires
 

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A comment from someone that lives below the 57th Parallel. ;)

Where I stay its 50/50 on winters. I'd like to have a set, but I refuse to spend upwards of £500 for tyres that I only need for a few months a year.
If you run two sets of tyres I reckon you’ll be good for 100,000 miles on a Zoe. See it as investment against rising tyre prices. ;)
 

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If you run two sets of tyres I reckon you’ll be good for 100,000 miles on a Zoe. See it as investment against rising tyre prices. ;)
Wouldn't have thought so, fronts are good for 20k if you actually like driving and that's about it. ;)
 
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