OK - sort of.“Wants a new car with the best technology, but without some of the new technology”
Not all cars have security flaws, and they can be mitigated.OK - sort of.
I want the new car warranty, safety standards and reliability.
I can live without most of the toys.
I want to keep the car for a good many years when I get a BEV that works for me. Not just a couple of months until the organised crime find out how to hack the keyless system. I live in Bradford so maybe my priorities have to be different.
I was looking for the same thing and chose Peugeot e2008 GT line , the GT has keyless entry but not GT line, press of the fob needed to unlock but then the key only needs to be in the car to start up thought this was ideal option for meI would much prefer to have a new car WITHOUT keyless entry for security reasons.
Does anyone know of a new BEV that has keyed entry even as a cost option?
Am I alone? We Dodos must stick together.
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.Not all cars have security flaws, and they can be mitigated.
Really depends on where your car is parked in relation to your house.
If you could tell us a bit more we might be able to help.
Don’t want to burst your bubble but traditional keys have been ‘hacked’ for years.Any key system that transmits continuously may be secure today but it's just waiting to be hacked one day. I'd rather avoid the problem than spend my time jumping through hoops to protect my new convenience feature.
That’s not really the attack vector, no.For information my car is parked on the drive immediately next to the front of the house and alongside the footpath to the front door. So if I were to walk past it with my newfangled key in my pocket it would unlock. I stroll off for a walk and the man in the balaclava just gets in and drives it away. No?
That’s not how it works, at least not on the e-Golf.Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.
Any key system that transmits continuously may be secure today but it's just waiting to be hacked one day. I'd rather avoid the problem than spend my time jumping through hoops to protect my new convenience feature.
That old fashioned key on the steering column went into a mechanical steering lock. Now a thing of the past?
For information my car is parked on the drive immediately next to the front of the house and alongside the footpath to the front door. So if I were to walk past it with my newfangled key in my pocket it would unlock. I stroll off for a walk and the man in the balaclava just gets in and drives it away. No?
That's convenient but not for me!
You can usually choose whether it auto-unlocks or you touch it somehow to do so.So if I were to walk past it with my newfangled key in my pocket it would unlock. I stroll off for a walk and the man in the balaclava just gets in and drives it away. No?
I don't think it's easy to hack the last generation of keys. Otherwise why did the local car theives spend half an hour breaking into my house at 4am to try to steal them?Don’t want to burst your bubble but traditional keys have been ‘hacked’ for years.
That's reassuring.That’s not how it works, at least not on the e-Golf.
In that scenario, somebody could pull the door lever as I was walking past, and it would open.
However, it wouldn’t start unless the key was also within the passenger cabin. It also wouldn’t unlock unless somebody pulled on the door handle.
Also on the e-Golf implementation of it, and I don’t think it’s unique, there is still a steering lock, an electro mechanical version that you hear disengage when you press the start button.
You’d have to ask them, but it’s probably just their MO. They don’t always expect to find keys, but they find them enough times to make it worthwhile.I don't think it's easy to hack the last generation of keys. Otherwise why did the local car theives spend half an hour breaking into my house at 4am to try to steal them?
They couldn't find the keys as we don't leave them lying about in the hall.
You are not alone 🙂I would much prefer to have a new car WITHOUT keyless entry for security reasons.
Does anyone know of a new BEV that has keyed entry even as a cost option?
Am I alone? We Dodos must stick together.
Like Pin to Drive you mean?from a cyber security perspective it feels like it would benefit from some form of two factor authentication.
Giving me flashbacks to my mate's Citroen ZX now <shudder>. I was thinking more like concealing a swipe card scanner in the panel gap 🙂.Like Pin to Drive you mean?![]()