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I changed to summer tires yesterday, i noticed that the bearing looked a bit shabby. (Or are these the rubber guides?)
Weird thing is this car has been through a 3 year service in January and this is something the the service person should have seen no?
As far as i know a bearing should not last only 3 years, question is if they are waiting for the 5 years warranty to pass before they bring this up.
I wanted to share a picture here and get the opinion of people who know cars better than me before i make a fuss over it at the dealers.
Here are 2 pics, what do you think?
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On a side note, what's this lever thingy?
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I changed to summer tires yesterday, i noticed that the bearing looked a bit shabby. (Or are these the rubber guides?)
Weird thing is this car has been through a 3 year service in January and this is something the the service person should have seen no?
As far as i know a bearing should not last only 3 years, question is if they are waiting for the 5 years warranty to pass before they bring this up.
I wanted to share a picture here and get the opinion of people who know cars better than me before i make a fuss over it at the dealers.
Here are 2 pics, what do you think?
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On a side note, what's this lever thingy?
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Thank you for your help :D
What you are looking at is a suspension bush. It kind of a bearing but not really. If you are concerned with the appearance, take the car to an MOT centre and they will examine the bush and tell you if it's road worthy.
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I changed to summer tires yesterday, i noticed that the bearing looked a bit shabby. (Or are these the rubber guides?)
Weird thing is this car has been through a 3 year service in January and this is something the the service person should have seen no?
As far as i know a bearing should not last only 3 years, question is if they are waiting for the 5 years warranty to pass before they bring this up.
I wanted to share a picture here and get the opinion of people who know cars better than me before i make a fuss over it at the dealers.
Here are 2 pics, what do you think?
View attachment 144259
View attachment 144260


On a side note, what's this lever thingy?
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Thank you for your help :D
The lever arrangement looks a little like a suspension height sensor, the lever rotates the actual sensor.
This would be used by the auto levelling of the headlights, possibly also the ESP.
 

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What you are looking at is a suspension bush. It kind of a bearing but not really. If you are concerned with the appearance, take the car to an MOT centre and they will examine the bush and tell you if it's road worthy.
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Sometimes the exposed part of a rubber bush can look bad but the inner part that separates the metal and provide for twisting in shear is perfectly OK. If there are no noises or wheel alignment problems, it is almost certainly OK but your MOT center ( NOT the dealer) is your best friend.
 

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Thanks for the info! I googled MOT center, we don't have those here but we do have regular garages that do control checks and ill have one of them take a look and tell me if it needs replacing.
 

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Thanks for the info! I googled MOT center, we don't have those here but we do have regular garages that do control checks and ill have one of them take a look and tell me if it needs replacing.
Hi thanks for your reply Is this run by Vegvesan.no ?
I think we are saying the same thing. Is it due in the 4th year after 1st registration?
 

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Vegvesen is our road management entity, they have overall control and check that cars have been periodically checked but they don't operate any workshops that check cars themselves, instead regular car workshops can buy the gear and train people to do yearly checks (we call them EU controls) and report the outcomes to Vegvesen.
And yes my car has not had its first Bi yearly control yet since its only 3 years old, the first one comes next year but it has been in a yearly service at the dealer it was bought from and they never said anything regarding this bushing.
 

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The Garage, workshop,ortester would only pickup problems if there is any 'Play' (movement) in the joint outside that allowd by the bush and is typically not a visual check.
 

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Suspension bushes are checked visually for deterioration, but if there's any concern - the tester will get a pry-bar on it to check for play. The sensor I suspect is for self-leveling headlights as mentioned.
 

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Im gonna call the dealer tomorrow and see if they mentioned anything regarding the bushing in the last report about the car.
Just for kicks i went online to check how much one of these bushings costs and got a heart attack:
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That’s bizarre!

A bush is a chunk of rubber with a metal sleeve running through the middle!

They are very cheap, I don’t know which site you have seen these on but it maybe in yen or something that has somehow had a £ put in front.

Bushes are very cheap the most expensive bit is the labour to fit it.

If you don’t hear any unusual noises from your suspension I wouldn’t worry about the appearance of the edge of the bush.

suspension components operate in the shittiest environment imaginable, they are constantly sand blasted with tiny particles of grit every time it rains they get a gritty wash and they are covered in salt all winter.

They do look grubby, tatty and seized together with rust this is totally normal, there is no cause for concern your suspension bits look normal.

if you hear an abnormal noise knocking or squeaking then you may have a problem, if not then out of sight, out of mind, enjoy your car it’s totally fine.
 

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Yen trades at 0..0066 to the Pound Sterling. So yes that first crazy price is in yen. Either that or scalpers have moved on from video cards to auto parts. 😂
 

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What you sent was a front one, the one i showed was the back one, i saw many front ones for cheap, only the back ones were INSANE price.


This is not in Yen, this is from https://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/ , a store i bought many times from and is actually located in Germany (affiliate to auto doc) and the price is in English pounds.
I don't understand either what is going on, might be a mistake but maybe not? no idea.
 

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What you sent was a front one, the one i showed was the back one, i saw many front ones for cheap, only the back ones were INSANE price.


This is not in Yen, this is from https://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/ , a store i bought many times from and is actually located in Germany (affiliate to auto doc) and the price is in English pounds.
I don't understand either what is going on, might be a mistake but maybe not? no idea.
I purchased a 2014 Renault Zoe for my wife a few weeks ago, it had a few issues so I got it for a good price.

I decided to go through its worn suspension components and just completely replace all the known bits that fail and all the bits that already had started to go.

The list below is parts only, I fitted all of these bits to the front end suspension / control arms brand new:

lower wish bones (these have 3 bushes in them)

Anti roll bar drop links

Anti roll bar bushes

Outer track rod ends (because the rubbers had perished)

Strut top mounts / bearings (because they were knocking over bumps and creaking when steering)

This list of components is practically the whole front end assembly (of wear items at least) on a Renault Zoe and they cost me less than £400 from the motor factors and I purchased the best quality components.

They took me less than 6 hours to fit with basic tools on axel stands, I took it for a laser tracking alignment after its major surgery and the car now drives like it was new.

The web site your are looking at is an anomaly you could purchase every single component in your suspension and replace it practically for the prices you have shown this is very strange, those particular bushes will be less than £40 even if you get ripped off.
 

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What you sent was a front one, the one i showed was the back one, i saw many front ones for cheap, only the back ones were INSANE price.


This is not in Yen, this is from https://www.bestpartstore.co.uk/ , a store i bought many times from and is actually located in Germany (affiliate to auto doc) and the price is in English pounds.
I don't understand either what is going on, might be a mistake but maybe not? no idea.
Hi Jflex4, those prices are just subs because the aftermarket parts are not even available (anywhere). The manufacturer such as Febi might not even have tooled up to make them, because the anticipated volumes are deemed too low. So the prices could as well be $1Million. If you did need a replacement rear track arm, you would need to source from Hyundai/Kia.

In a few years time, aftermarket parts might be available at sensible prices. In the classic car restoration world, its quite normal to remove the old bonded bush and press in a new. Do NOT ever be tempted to substitute a polyurethane bush on a road car for a joint like this. There are manufacturers who specialise in making bonded bushes. RS has an entire catalogue section for them available from stock for less than £10. A workshop with reamer, lathe and press would normally be able to refit a new bush to an existing track control arm.

However, a quick check by a garage that normally does the European inspection, should put your mind at rest.
 

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Hi Jflex4, those prices are just subs because the aftermarket parts are not even available (anywhere). The manufacturer such as Febi might not even have tooled up to make them, because the anticipated volumes are deemed too low. So the prices could as well be $1Million. If you did need a replacement rear track arm, you would need to source from Hyundai/Kia.

In a few years time, aftermarket parts might be available at sensible prices. In the classic car restoration world, its quite normal to remove the old bonded bush and press in a new. Do NOT ever be tempted to substitute a polyurethane bush on a road car for a joint like this. There are manufacturers who specialise in making bonded bushes. RS has an entire catalogue section for them available from stock for less than £10. A workshop with reamer, lathe and press would normally be able to refit a new bush to an existing track control arm.

However, a quick check by a garage that normally does the European inspection, should put your mind at rest.
In extreme cases, have a look here Bonded Bushes | RS Components (rs-online.com)
However, most front wheel drive cars have rear wheel suspensions with controlled rear steering/compliance of which the bushes play a part! So changing the bush can alter the suspension compliance.
 

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Hi Jflex4, those prices are just subs because the aftermarket parts are not even available (anywhere). The manufacturer such as Febi might not even have tooled up to make them, because the anticipated volumes are deemed too low. So the prices could as well be $1Million. If you did need a replacement rear track arm, you would need to source from Hyundai/Kia.

In a few years time, aftermarket parts might be available at sensible prices. In the classic car restoration world, its quite normal to remove the old bonded bush and press in a new. Do NOT ever be tempted to substitute a polyurethane bush on a road car for a joint like this. There are manufacturers who specialise in making bonded bushes. RS has an entire catalogue section for them available from stock for less than £10. A workshop with reamer, lathe and press would normally be able to refit a new bush to an existing track control arm.

However, a quick check by a garage that normally does the European inspection, should put your mind at rest.
Thanks! that makes a lot of sense.
I am not actually looking to buy one since i hear no noises coming from it but was just wondering about the price.
 
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