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Geofencing will work for things like shopping malls but is unlikely to work for individual roads, particularly like the A19 as it has residential roads and separate cycle paths running alongside it in many places along with roads running over/under it in many others.
To me the issue in the UK isn't the tech but it's application. Early results from the trial show some underage users, some riders riding inappropriately, some being used in inappropriate places (derestricted dual carriageways, pedestrian malls, footpaths) with zero enforcement. The issues are some of the users, the weakness of the laws and the absence of law enforcement. To be fair the same area suffers from similar problems with illegally driven off-road motorcycles although the Police attempt to catch those (generally through "intelligence" as their X5s are incapable off-road).
Chalk up another failure of central government, both the Politicians and the Civil Servants.
I've been in touch with our local MP (who I didn't vote for) and apparently he's receiving a large amount of negative correspondence about them and we are not even in a trial area. Unless things improve the trial may not result in e-scooters being allowed permenantly.
 

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Electric cars are costly & terribly inefficient on a miles per kWh basis compared to e-scooters.
But they are a lot drier and more comfortable than scooters. Not to mention safer.

When will we see a Euro ENCAP test of a man on a scooter?
 

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Electric cars are costly & terribly inefficient on a miles per kWh basis compared to e-scooters.
Entirely true, but completely irrelevant. The point of using hire companies for the trial was to hand over the responsibility of ensuring that they are used legally (and safely, though that's probably secondary). The initial stories of under-age riders, riding on roads where they are not allowed, and general anti-social behaviour may very well result in the trial outcome being "The public can't be trusted to use them properly - they should stay illegal". Let's hope that the hire companies up their game with who they allow on the scooters (eg maybe you should have to give your driving license number before you can register?), and how the use of the scooters is policed (eg register a credit card - if you break the terms of service then you get charged and kicked out).
 

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Electric cars are costly & terribly inefficient on a miles per kWh basis compared to e-scooters.
How efficient is an e-scooter(or six) with a 4-person load and 50kg of luggage?

How efficient is a similarly loaded car travelling at the e-scooters top speed?

If you've got ball park figures for the e scooter I'll look up the car.
 

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Entirely true, but completely irrelevant. The point of using hire companies for the trial was to hand over the responsibility of ensuring that they are used legally (and safely, though that's probably secondary). The initial stories of under-age riders, riding on roads where they are not allowed, and general anti-social behaviour may very well result in the trial outcome being "The public can't be trusted to use them properly - they should stay illegal". Let's hope that the hire companies up their game with who they allow on the scooters (eg maybe you should have to give your driving license number before you can register?), and how the use of the scooters is policed (eg register a credit card - if you break the terms of service then you get charged and kicked out).
But the legislation surrounding the use of e-scooters (like much of recent legislation) has been ill thought-through at best. The Police do not have the time to go after e-scooters being ridden illegally, and the e-scooters themsleves have no form of identification making enforcement very difficult. The latter is particularly important to identify between legally rented machines and illegally used owned machines. A lot of the alledged anti-social behaviour wasn't even illegal under current rules.
 

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In California, domicile of the duke & duchess of sussex, legal, private ownership & use of e-scooters & electric skateboards doesn’t require insurance, registration and they’re allowed everywhere bicycles are.
 

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Remind me of your gun laws while you are at it? Just over 3,000 deaths per year seems acceptable to your State.

What works for you doesn't necessarily work over here.
 

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In California, domicile of the duke & duchess of sussex, legal, private ownership & use of e-scooters & electric skateboards doesn’t require insurance, registration and they’re allowed everywhere bicycles are.
And in California, Scoot Scoop can legally go around impounding abandoned hire scooters that are left on privately owned property! 'Merica.
 

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How efficient is an e-scooter(or six) with a 4-person load and 50kg of luggage?

How efficient is a similarly loaded car travelling at the e-scooters top speed?

If you've got ball park figures for the e scooter I'll look up the car.
"The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) originated a system to rate electric cars and to compare them against gasoline cars, something it called MPGe (miles-per-gallon-electric). An electric car typically gets 90 to 130 MPGe. Most eBikes get somewhere around 2,000 MPGe on this measure, roughly 20 times more efficient with electricity than a Tesla Model S."

 

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"One kilowatt hour of energy carries a gasoline-powered car a little less than a mile. A much more efficient Tesla Model 3 can travel about four miles on the same amount of energy. An electric scooter can travel more than 80 miles—or 333 laps around a football field.

In fact, e-scooters are so efficient, a human would burn about nine times as much energy walking and about four times as much energy bicycling the same distance.
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"For the price of one long-range Tesla Model 3 (approximately $53,000), you could purchase more than 100 high-quality electric scooters."
 

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Interesting pieces of propoganda that you are recycling as fact. Remind me how rented dockless e-scooters are recharged? :unsure:
 

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So hang on, an e scooter is 2000 MPGe, but you'd need 5. So 400 MPGe.

A Model 3 at 15 mph is about 200Wh/mile, so about 170MPGe.

So the scooter is about 2.3 times more efficient. It's good, but it's not ground breaking considering the trade offs.
 

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So hang on, an e scooter is 2000 MPGe, but you'd need 5. So 400 MPGe.

A Model 3 at 15 mph is about 200Wh/mile, so about 170MPGe.

So the scooter is about 2.3 times more efficient. It's good, but it's not ground breaking considering the trade offs.
But isn't the average number of people in a car on any journey like 1.2? You're being a bit disingenuous. Don't let Good be the enemy of Perfect.
 

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The other day when I rented one I saw a scooter employee carrying a couple of drained e-scooters on another e-scooter.
So efficient then! :rolleyes: And the majority are still picked up by employees in ICE.

If you want to compare efficiencies then perhaps a train is a good comparison? I once ran a 200 ton train for 11 miles with no power source. Not a fair comparison (it was down a very long hill so really was powered by GPE), but random figures about different modes of transport have little relevance.

e-scooters have a lot to offer as a first mile / last mile solution but the implementation in the UK is being horribly botched (as with most things) by the current Government and Civil Service which may result in them being banned or brought into disrepute.
 
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