Just received an e-mail from Zap-Map informing me of their impending launch of a new service: Zap-Pay, which I'm told will be a new way to pay for EV charging. Does anybody know anything about this?
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Personally the sooner we at WORST case get to a pay by a universal credit/debit system the better. Even easier could be to register your card against your car so that it automatically debits simply by plugging in to a charge point. All these apps, rfid cards are complex nonsense imo.
I'm not talking about plugshare/zapmap/abrp per se. These aggregators gives a good and much needed overview of our disharmoniouos charging network system. The sooner car chargepoint systems allow you to plug in zapmap, abrp into their databases etc the better. They provide much more detailed background info.
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Personally the sooner we at WORST case get to a pay by a universal credit/debit system the better. Even easier could be to register your card against your car so that it automatically debits simply by plugging in to a charge point. All these apps, rfid cards are complex nonsense imo.
I'm not talking about plugshare/zapmap/abrp per se. These aggregators gives a good and much needed overview of our disharmoniouos charging network system. The sooner car chargepoint systems allow you to plug in zapmap, abrp into their databases etc the better. They provide much more detailed background info.
In the short time I've participated in these public charging threads, I have been astounded by the totally unnecessary and diabolical situation regards access & payment at public charging points!!! I'm sure that this is one of the major impediments preventing the uptake of EV's by the general population. When I received the news from Zap-Map that they were launching Zap-Pay, I thought maybe... just maybe a degree of sensibility and reasonableness was finally being introduced to help alleviate this conundrum... Let's hope that Zap-Map's plans are simple, user/friendly and finally taken up by the supply industry at large! I'll not be holding my breath, though...
“ Zap-Pay is a service provided by Zap-Map which allows Users to pay for, and access, the EV charging services (CPO Services) offered by participating charging point operators (CPOs) in the United Kingdom.
While Zap-Pay is available to Zap-Map Users within the Zap-Map platform, there is no requirement for Users to access this service, nor is there any requirement for Zap-Pay Users to undertake any account registration or subscription, or to use any specific RFID or payment card(s).
Users of Zap-Pay accept that, where CPO Services are accessed by Users, Zap-Map’s roles are as follows: (i) on a non-exclusive basis, introducing Zap-Pay Users to CPO via Zap-Map for the purposes of enabling Zap-Pay Users’ access to CPO Services; (ii) a provider of payments services including the processing of payments and issuing of receipts to Users for EV charging services accessed via Zap-Pay; and (iii) a payment support service for Zap-Pay Users via a dedicated customer helpline.”
Zap-Map, the well know. Electric vehicle (EV) mapping service, has today launched Zap-Pay, a new service that enables drivers to use a single app to pay for charging across different networks. Engenie, the UK-wide rapid charging network, will be the first network available on Zap-Pay. Drivers...
Given I didn't understand their own explanation of what it does, I think I'll give it a wide berth for the moment. It's not as if ZapMap itself has been user friendly at all times.
Of no interest to me. Contactless only rapids everytime. Havent used anything else for over a year and enough around for us to ignore other methods now. If we all try to stick to contactless rapids the other networks will soon get the message.
I’m definitely the same. Depending on how much you are bothered, if there are chargers that don’t offer contactless somewhere that you would use them If they were, email the company to politely tell them why you aren’t going to use their charger. Tell them what would encourage you to use it, and give them an example of a competitor who uses contactless that you use instead.
I don’t really get why I’d want to use this at an Engenie charger rather than just using my contactless debit card as normal?
Don’t get it at all.
The only benefits I can see are:
1. History and receipts
2. Circumvents others apps for networks without contactless payment
But, the lead partner network, Engenie, already has full contactless payment, IME, so they are an odd choice to start with.
If they could have partnered with at least two networks that currently require the use of their own app then there would have been some (limited) tangible benefit.
I’m personally not bothered about receipts, but can see that might be useful for drivers making business journeys.
There are signs that this particular government may yet actually be more interventionist than might be expected and than recent governments were, but I’m not especially hopeful.
Bill N - maybe! In the recent Tonight 'docutainment' programme about the UK being ready for EVs or not the transport secretary did seem a bit exasperated when questioned about the motorway charging infrastructure. I think he is aware its a challenge to keep up with the infrastructure planning in relation to the rate of increase in EV sales. Hopefully he will do something about it.
At the moment we are only working with our launch partner Engenie, and only a small sub set of the devices are Zap-Pay enabled. We will however be rolling out across their entire network over the course of September and then bringing on additional networks after that.
The easiest way to find devices that support Zap-Pay is to use the 'Payment' filter and select the 'Zap-Pay' option.
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There are some potential security issues with card readers in unattended locations - ISTR reading the card providers impose some additional requirements, though not sure if these have a significant cost impact
Really, all the charging providers need to do is pass on the full additional cost of allowing contactless payment to the customer. How hard would that be? And, say for a £10 charging session, how much would the additional cost be?
To my mind zap-pay is a solution in search of a problem for rapid chargers. Contactless payment should be standard on rapids given the cost of the equipment. People with knowledge of card payment terminals on this forum have outlined why this may not be / is not happening.
For slower AC charging I can see the appeal: Not yet another app to download and service to sign up for.
A better approach would've been a zap-pay RFID card that would work across networks. And also work if one doesn't have cell signal at the charger or if the charger has lost its network connection.
Does someone know why Ecotricity abandoned their RFID cards? Would seem a better solution than free vend if the charger looses its network connection.
There have been many attempts at charge point aggregators, Zap-Map seems to offer nothing new, or does it?
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