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Leakage of the freon is quite common in car air conditioners. Not surprised to hear that you guys faced similar issues. I had the same issue back 2 years ago and went to lkbrothers.com to get my car air conditioner fixed. They just replaced my freon levels and everything has been going well soon. The heating issue i'm afraid I do not have any answers to that as I did not have any problem with my air con on that. Maybe you should get it checked? Not sure if your compressor needs to be entirely removed and changed...
 

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Leakage of the freon is quite common in car air conditioners. Not surprised to hear that you guys faced similar issues. I had the same issue back 2 years ago and went to lkbrothers.com to get my car air conditioner fixed. They just replaced my freon levels and everything has been going well soon. The heating issue i'm afraid I do not have any answers to that as I did not have any problem with my air con on that. Maybe you should get it checked? Not sure if your compressor needs to be entirely removed and changed...
Refrigerant leakage over short timescales indicates a FAULT and should be repaired under warranty by the vehicle manufacturer ( excepting accident damage).
 

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Hmm. Some called LKbros advising us to go to lkbrothers.com in their first post. :rolleyes:
 

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I had a freon leakage in my air con before and I brought it to my car dealer and they said they do not do works like these. They suggested that I go to a third party air con servicing company which I did and they did quite a good job on my air con. It was ready within a day. Really sucks that the car dealers only care about selling the cars and not the maintenance of it thereafter.
 

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Some dealerships will outsource AC work, as the equipment is quite specialist.

When I worked for an agricultural engineering shop we used to do the AC serving for Nigel Mansel garage’s Ferraris. :)
 

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First post from Subcool and a link to subcool.sg, another Singapore-based firm. Do they sell many ZOEs in Singapore?

As an aside, our PHEV needs a special refrigerant, apparently due to its proximity to high voltages. Is the ZOE the same?
 

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I am pretty sure the "special refrigerant" is a bogus story, spun by the usual suspects (not you!) to state something like "EV's are crap and if they aren't, then the dealers/OEMs are with "special xxxx". Yes there is new coolant needed..... by all new cars. It has a massive reduction in Ozone deletion, and yes, it's more expensive. If you think this is not the case, please ask your dealer about the type.

PS: ZOE (and I am sure others, maybe all) use this mandatory, ozone-less-unfriendly stuff. And it's compressor is a sealed can with the 400V motor surrounded by the stuff ;-)
 

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The big functional difference is the oil that gets added to the refrigerant, it must be compatible with the HV. Let an average shop 'have a go at it', like @LKbros , and unless they are aware of the differences they might destroy your car for a very low price with the wrong oil!
 

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The big functional difference is the oil that gets added to the refrigerant, it must be compatible with the HV. Let an average shop 'have a go at it', like @LKbros , and unless they are aware of the differences they might destroy your car for a very low price with the wrong oil!
Donald, the only thing different for BEV Aircon is the lubricant NOT the refrigerant which as our French friend has pointed out, , is a function of environmental legislation..

Check out the HELLA site, and they list all the particular lubricants specified.

The fusiness wrt lubricants is largely driven by moisture. considerations and hence conductivity.
 

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The big functional difference is the oil that gets added to the refrigerant, it must be compatible with the HV. Let an average shop 'have a go at it', like @LKbros , and unless they are aware of the differences they might destroy your car for a very low price with the wrong oil!
Our replies crossed but it seems we agree.😁👍👍👍👍
 

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To all the people claiming that it’s normal for freon to escape, or air cons need “topping up” I ask them, how many time have they had to call someone in to “re-gas” their fridge freezer?

Even old ones from 60’s and 70’s still run today!
 

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To all the people claiming that it’s normal for freon to escape, or air cons need “topping up” I ask them, how many time have they had to call someone in to “re-gas” their fridge freezer?

Even old ones from 60’s and 70’s still run today!
I sold a 12 year old car a few months ago and in my 12 years of ownership, never let any dealer or mechanic mess with the Aircon. Guess what, it still blasted out frigid cold air.

However automotive Aircon and hermetically sealed refrigerators are different things. Automotive Aircon uses flexible hoses which do have a finite but small permeation rate. Refrigerator circuits are entirely mettalic and have no service ports.
 

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To all the people claiming that it’s normal for freon to escape, or air cons need “topping up” I ask them, how many time have they had to call someone in to “re-gas” their fridge freezer?

Even old ones from 60’s and 70’s still run today!
Fridges are slightly different as they are simpler and have less unions that can leak or split. The pipe work is usually soldered.

Also a car can get knocked or more usually a rock hits the condenser or it just corrodes.

So in a perfect world, it shouldn’t need touching but it’s not uncommon for a failure in the system to leak all the refrigerant. What you shouldn’t do is top it up without understanding why it lost all the gas in the first place.
 

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I recharged my AC on my own using LPG insead of R1234yf. Experimentally...
Got an excellent result.
Tried to create a post a here with details but was awaiting moderation and now i can't see it anymore. Probably was removed.
 

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I recharged my AC on my own using LPG insead of R1234yf. Experimentally...
Got an excellent result.
Tried to create a post a here with details but was awaiting moderation and now i can't see it anymore. Probably was removed.
What lube oil did you use?
 

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What lube oil did you use?
Why would you use any? That's the next owners problem.... egg in the radiator, sawdust in the oil and butane in the AC. Perfect combo, you might want to hire a Minder to watch your back though while you count your ill gotten gains? :ROFLMAO:
 

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What lube oil did you use?
30ml POE been added few weeks before with R1234yf at quite a hefty cost. Unfortunately the R1234yf leaked in 2 weeks time, 80%. The garage only recovered 200gr.
I didn't add any other extra oil, but i had to add a stop leak mix, which has oil in it too. The shot was 30ml and been sold as suitable for electric and hybrid AC systems.

There's no way to measure oil quantity in any AC system.
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Why would you use any? That's the next owners problem.... egg in the radiator, sawdust in the oil and butane in the AC. Perfect combo, you might want to hire a Minder to watch your back though while you count your ill gotten gains? :ROFLMAO:
HAH!

See!

Easy peezy.... "Total A/C Leak Stop".

Now the joke's on you and you're laughing all the way to your expensive garage!

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