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Anyway - as an internet user since the mid 90s I'm going to assume that as usual we only hear the negative things on forums and the vast majority of positive experiences go unnoticed....
This - and a couple of other factors.

Since COVID hit, the number of negative comments and the number of arguments here has increased (no one to share opinions with outside?)

Too high expectations - everyone is today an armchair vehicle manufacturing guru and knows better than vehicle designers, vehicle engineers, procurement specialists and marketing specialists how much things should cost and which features vehicles should have for which price point; I blame the online self-appointed expert car reviewers for this. We used to be car mechanics, fiddling with the carburettor and spark plugs, but they took that away from us and we're bored I guess...
 

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Too high expectations - everyone .... knows better than .... procurement specialists and marketing specialists how much things should cost and which features vehicles should have for which price point.....
Sorry to be picky on 'this', but the consumer ALWAYS knows better than procurement specialists and marketing specialists how much things should cost and which features vehicles should have for which price point!

On whether a forum like this would see more problems than successes, well, maybe from new entrants to the forum, they come looking for advice. But those who stay here a while represent a reasonable 'time averaged' experience.

This Zoe 50 is my 5th electric car, I came here because of the 4 previous ones, not because this Zoe is a whining, creaking, leaking tin box with questionable multi-media software credentials.
 

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At 82% the charge rate had dropped to 25.9 kW so I waved my contactless card in front of the charger to stop it. This worked fine earlier in the week when I added 10 kWh in a quick top up. Nothing happened.
This happened to me at the Charge your Car unit in Hunstanton. I ended up unlocking the cable by pressing the remote unlock button twice and then unplugging. I phoned Chargemaster to make sure the charge session had stopped and they confirmed it had.
So many posts here about charging problems - I'm starting to wonder if I've done the right thing ordering one - and that's not even considering deadly doors, dodgy software/hardware, will it/won't it have AEB etc....
I wouldn’t worry about charging, I’ve only had an issue at home and that’s down to the Charge unit. Haven’t heard about problems with the other things you mention.
Anyway - as an internet user since the mid 90s I'm going to assume that as usual we only hear the negative things on forums and the vast majority of positive experiences go unnoticed....
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I beat an MG ev off the lights the other day actually!

im happy to race you in either the ze50 or model x lol
Dash cam footage or it never happened. :whistle: I bet the rest of your story goes "well I did get a jump on him, but then he came sailing past on a wave of torque right as my Zoe started to rain in the power after 30mph" :ROFLMAO:
 

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Dash cam footage or it never happened. :whistle: I bet the rest of your story goes "well I did get a jump on him, but then he came sailing past on a wave of torque right as my Zoe started to rain in the power after 30mph" :ROFLMAO:
See you at Santa Pod, or STFU. ;)
 

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See you at Santa Pod, or STFU. ;)
Well interestingly it seems Bjorn Nyland has never 0-100kph tested the Zoe, wonder why? Be interesting to see results of the 9.5second Zoe against the tested and verified 7.88sec ZS EV.

Why would Santa Pod be relevant? Does the Zoe need extra grippy tarmac to launch? :whistle:
 

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Yes. And proper timing equipment. :)
I'd say Bjorns testing equipment is at least consistent and he uses the same road with multiple passes. Its good enough to show the MG as tested is nearly 2 seconds quicker than the Zoe (currently untested).

But like I said before, I'd like to see a professional crew put together a 0-60 race for humdrum EVs, would be fun to watch.
 

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Its good enough to show the MG as tested is nearly 2 seconds quicker than the Zoe (currently untested).
I love the way you’ve just disqualified your own argument in the same sentence.

Anyway, if you don’t turn up to ‘Run-what-ya-brung’ at the Pod next weekend, we all know why. :p
 

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I'm being honest, as opposed to your disingenuous want of claiming you'd be faster at an event we all know fine well you won't be at. :p

Show me some timed footage of a ZE50 doing 0-60mph faster than the book 9.5 seconds if you can?
 

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Dash cam footage or it never happened. :whistle: I bet the rest of your story goes "well I did get a jump on him, but then he came sailing past on a wave of torque right as my Zoe started to rain in the power after 30mph" :ROFLMAO:
Not sure why you think the MG is faster it has the aero of a brick and that’s why it gets such poor range, also dials! How do u know the speed anyway, best guess from the 1998 dash board I see😂
 

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I'm being honest, as opposed to your disingenuous want of claiming you'd be faster at an event we all know fine well you won't be at. :p

Show me some timed footage of a ZE50 doing 0-60mph faster than the book 9.5 seconds if you can?
the R135 is faster, it’s also an EV so 0-60 means nothing
 

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How do u know the speed anyway, best guess from the 1998 dash board I see
Less spec'd models of the e208 are the same. But the ZS also has a digital speedo.

the R135 is faster, it’s also an EV so 0-60 means nothing
So a car that has less power, less torque, heavier is quicker because it looks a bit more aero. I'm sure you'll find up to 60mph the car with the least weight and most power will win. ;) And then the car with the highest speed limited speed will be fastest too. ;)

0-60means nothing, agreed! The car in front at the end of the race is the winner regardless of speed!
 

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Less spec'd models of the e208 are the same. But the ZS also has a digital speedo.



So a car that has less power, less torque, heavier is quicker because it looks a bit more aero. I'm sure you'll find up to 60mph the car with the least weight and most power will win. ;) And then the car with the highest speed limited speed will be fastest too. ;)

0-60means nothing, agreed! The car in front at the end of the race is the winner regardless of speed!
Any ev in 2020 with poverty spec items shoehorned in from the ice version is unforgivable, especially at £20k+
The ZE50 isn’t perfect but least it looks like a 2020 car.

I was interested in the MG until I sat in it...
 

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Does anyone really care if the MG is faster than the Zoe or vice versa?
Many years ago I was a bit of a "boy racer" but nowadays if someone's alongside me at the traffic lights it's:

"I know your car is probably faster than mine, so I've nothing to prove"​
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"I know my car is faster than yours, so I've nothing to prove"​
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"I wonder what to have for dinner tonight?"​
 

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Yes. Of course we do.

We demand to know the answer and clearly Bjorn has been hiding the truth all the while as he’s clearly on the side of Geely!
 

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east it looks like a 2020 car
Zoe = 2012 car with a mild refresh in 2019.

MG ZS = 2017 car, with the EV model in 2019.

Dials don't make it an old car, its just followed a different interior style path. I can see the dials in bright sunlight, not always something I could say in the Zoe.
 

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Zoe = 2012 car with a mild refresh in 2019.

MG ZS = 2017 car, with the EV model in 2019.

Dials don't make it an old car, its just followed a different interior style path. I can see the dials in bright sunlight, not always something I could say in the Zoe.
The new Zoe is much more than a ‘mild refresh’. The software is a ground up re-write, for a start.

Never had a problem with Zoe dials in bright sunlight. As you might imagine we get quite a lot of that. ;)
 

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The software is a ground up re-write, for a start.
You're presumably talking about the rlink replacement? Woo I wouldn't call that much, especially given as it seems as broken as rlink was.

Never had a problem with Zoe dials in bright sunlight.

9mins 40, no glare at all. :ROFLMAO:

And as I had in my older Zoe, 6mins 40. not exactly sunny climate either for this video.


Don't get me wrong, I liked my Zoe but its information screens were never what sold it to me. It was how it drove and its low purchase and running costs that attracted me.
 

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You're presumably talking about the rlink replacement? Woo I wouldn't call that much, especially given as it seems as broken as rlink was.




9mins 40, no glare at all. :ROFLMAO:

And as I had in my older Zoe, 6mins 40. not exactly sunny climate either for this video.


Don't get me wrong, I liked my Zoe but its information screens were never what sold it to me. It was how it drove and its low purchase and running costs that attracted me.
Well, the software works well for me, including remote pre-conditioning. An absolute life-saver.
 
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