I'm a Merseyside resident and would much rather see a different company setting up a site. Tesla are a huge multinational who have just decided to offer Musk a potential trillion dollar pay award. The idea the community should support them is totally laughable.

 

But given the vote is on the Tesla website that isn't going to happen.

 

Welcome @marianmarian9716

Talk about anything Tesla is not really welcome here so you will not get much traction. Tesla have had this one in the plan for a while now and already have a relationship with Junction One for other sites but I'm not sure the voting will help too much as it seems a fairly pointless exercise when there are so many locations up for grabs.

@sidehaas
Many CPOs are funded by large multinationals including many that funded / backed through their profits from burning fossil fuels (BP Pulse, Shell, MFG, Ionity, etc) which are very likely worse than one of the greenest but there are a few ICE shills here pushing that narrative.

 

Talk about anything Tesla is not really welcome here

Is that a statement based on your long standing membership to this forum or you just feeling "smart" this Friday evening?

 

@Rovastar thank you for the warm welcome! I just want to clear something up — this isn’t about Tesla the company or Elon Musk, it’s about the charging costs. Right now, Tesla’s network is unbeatable on price. I’d happily pay 30–35p per kWh on a Supercharger over paying twice or even three times that with many other CPOs. For me, and for a lot of local drivers, that’s what makes the difference — not who owns the chargers. Wirral Council and Liverpool City Region are already backing this location, so all I’m trying to do is show Tesla there’s traction in the area. It’s about getting affordable, reliable infrastructure where it’s badly needed. For the record, I’m driving a 5-year-old Tesla. I don’t buy a new car every year, and I’ve not put a penny into Tesla or Musk’s pocket since I bought it used. The value here is in the charging network, not in lining the pockets of a billionaire. This is about fair pricing and community benefit. That’s why I’m pushing for Junction One.

 

Voted. Ignore the moaners.

 

Thank you!

 

Tesla are a huge American conglomerate

Are they? I don't think most people would use the term conglomerate to describe Tesla.

They aren't doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

Neither is BP Pulse, or Instavolt, or Shell Energy.

I suspect we'll have to agree to disagree anyway.

There's not a lot to disagree on, you are just plain wrong, they have done more for the UK BEV market that most of the other CPO's combined. How many BEV's have Shell sold, oh none, they continue to promote drilling for oil and killing the planet, whoop evil Tesla, but we love Shell/BP etc.

 

Are they? I don't think most people would use the term conglomerate to describe Tesla.



Neither is BP Pulse, or Instavolt, or Shell Energy.


There's not a lot to disagree on, you are just plain wrong, they have done more for the UK BEV market that most of the other CPO's combined. How many BEV's have Shell sold, oh none, they continue to promote drilling for oil and killing the planet, whoop evil Tesla, but we love Shell/BP etc.

You are being silly, no one ever said anything about BP or Shell. I wouldn't like them controlling the market either, but that seems vanishingly unlikely, so it's of no consequence. There are plenty of small UK businesses trying to run and grow their charging businesses that I would like to see succeed.

 

New today, businesses can now pay for Superchargers, while Tesla will manage them..

"We want to help businesses and gasoline operators through this energy transition, and avoid a waste of capital. Because of our vertical integration, software focus, efficient installation and high site utilization, Superchargers offer one of the lowest cost per kWh for buyers and customers alike.

We're excited to see how this program grows. We're excited to make charging more ubiquitous."

https://www.tesla.com/supercharger-for-business

 

Sorry poster can’t support your plans as it’s not a location I would ever use. Suggest you try more local support for the Tesla site.
I avoid this area after having my car stolen there about four years ago, hope it’s a safer area today!

 

That's ok. Sorry for your bad experience with Wirral. Not the greatest spot, I agree, however it is where I live so I have to make it work. I'm hoping that with all the developments in the vicinity, things would change for the better. One can only hope. Thanks!

 

Voted.

Tbh I didn't think that location looked great but since the op asked nicely thought I'd give a vote.

I also took to opportunity to vote for a few more covering gaps in the North/ Wales but tbh they seemed quite high up in the voting anyway.

My favourite was the one in Portree, Skye.

 

Thank you! I would always support all areas that I think would benefit from a better/cheaper charging solution. I agree it's not the best looking site but that can quickly change once the supercharger brings more foot traffic. Thanks again for your vote!

 

Personally, I don't like the Muskrat. His politics are vile, coupled with a fragile ego that lashes out if threatened in anyway.
I also don't particularly like Tesla cars - they do nothing for me, and I've sat in a couple.
They also seem to come with membership of a cult that means you have to attack every other EV going - a fragile ego, so to speak (see above)

And here's the 'BUT' ... and why I use their Superchargers

I believe they make a loss on every kWh they sell at the Superchargers. And yet they are almost always the cheapest option by a long way.

An example : Anglesey Superchargers. Max price 52p/kWh. With a subscription (£10 per month, you can just sign up for a month), 37p. 12 stalls, all working

Nearest alternatives :
Porthmadog Instavolt. 87p/kWh. 1 of the 4 points is showing as out of order, and has been for 3 days
Llandudno Shell (Black Cat). 89p/kWh. 4 stalls, all working.

Tesla are doing more to drive the uptake of ALL EVs with their charging network than probably all of the other CPOs combined

If the choice is between getting ripped off by Instavolt or Shell, or paying half that price (and probably costing Tesla money) then I'm stopping at the Superchargers

Oh : voted for it. I'll never use there, but good luck to you with getting it !

 

Thank you so much for your vote. It means a lot🙏👍

 

It's funny how everything gets pinned on Elon as if he's single-handedly running around plugging in Superchargers himself.
People seem to forget there were basically no proper EVs before Tesla made them mainstream, no internet from the sky before Starlink, and he even managed to put NASA to shame with SpaceX launches. Neuralink is making more strides than most other medical technologies too.

Why is everyone so scared of advancement? Why does every conversation about Tesla have to circle back to "Elon = bad"? He doesn't deserve all the credit - the real credit goes to the engineers, scientists, and teams behind him.

Nobody knows the CEO of Audi or Mercedes, but everyone knows Elon. And now, somehow, hating him means hating anyone who drives a Tesla or uses a Supercharger.

Feels like misplaced energy if you ask me. What's with all the hate?

 

Feels like misplaced energy if you ask me. What's with all the hate?

I might have something to do with how he played an important part in getting Trump elected?
DOGE?
Organising an X survey whether US should 'liberate' UK?
Supporting ultra parties in Europe?

 

Fair point but from where I'm sitting it looks less like "moving right" and more like he's driving around the roundabout with no intention of taking an exit. Lots of indicators flashing, nobody sure which way he's going, and meanwhile I just want to know where the next cheap charger is.⚡🚗

 

Getting back on point, I clicked the link and it asks for your Tesla account login, I have the Tesla app, is the login the same?

 

Yes. Same creds.👍🙏

 

If you're going to take moral high ground, then you'd best hold it for absolutely everything, for all time.
Because otherwise it just looks like hypocrisy

What a laughable attempt at an insult, you literally use the company you hate but they have done nothing like a company I boycott. Are you saying that you cannot stop using Tesla as your moral compass is so weak willed you refuse to pay a few pence more for your electricity. If I am taking the moral high ground I already won, as at least I try to avoid it you actually don't even bother.

And yet you drive a Hyundai Ioniq.

Do I?

 

What a laughable attempt at an insult, you literally use the company you hate but they have done nothing like a company I boycott. Are you saying that you cannot stop using Tesla as your moral compass is so weak willed you refuse to pay a few pence more for your electricity. If I am taking the moral high ground I already won, as at least I try to avoid it you actually don't even bother.


Do I?

Yes, according to your profile, you drive a Hyundai Ioniq BEV.

If you're too lazy to update stuff, then that's on you

 

Welcome to the forum @marianmarian9716 . I've only just spotted this thread and voted as requested. I always find it interesting when such a seemingly 'no-brainer' gets a lot of negative off-piste comments based on entirely different criteria to the event itself. Of course, I fully understand that some people make decisions to support or boycott a business or political party based on personal opinions. That is normal. And in some cases, it leads to quite extreme measures to display that stance.

When the Musk nonsense blew up over a still shot of him 'sending his heart' to the crowd, that ended with an outstretched arm that was said to resemble a nazi salute, I read of one unhinged Tesla owner immediately selling his car at a large loss. Then went into another downward mental spiral, when observing the sale proceeds in his account also offended him so much that he immediately donated it to a charity. Extreme of course, but there were millions who reacted in a similar but more restrained manner once the media machine had worked its magic.

As others have said, once you go down that rabbit hole over a particular person and dig deep to discover every linked company in order to also vilify them, that starts to become an obsession. The recent exchanges about whether Tesla benefits or not by selling power cheaply is also interesting. The intimation being that if they lose money by selling below market price, then it's a good thing to take as much as possible in order to hurt Musk more. To an outside, disinterested observer, that would raise a smile. But then, when it was suggested that they don't lose, the same people are then prepared to pay three times the price elsewhere, again to display their strongly held personal beliefs. Again, I understand their position. They explain it often enough. I just prefer to distrust all large companies and all political parties equally. And buy products and services if they offer features and benefits that fit in with my needs and budget.

In the case of your OP, I am happy to support any means to expand the public charging network. And remain puzzled at why people would vote against it, based on some personal vendetta against one person, whose wealth or otherwise would be as unaffected as me failing to buy a single two-finger Kit-Kat bar next year.

As it happens, such a supercharger site would be useful to me as I often travel via the Kingsway tunnel to Anglesey, and such a cheaper and reliable option on that journey would be great.

 

Thanks for that, appreciate the welcome. Good to see there are also people here who aren't just extremists or full-on anti-Muskers. Nice to know some of us can keep the focus on the actual topic - cheaper, more reliable charging - without it spiralling into a political battleground. I'm just here for the volts, not the votes.⚡😂

 

Well… looks like all my spamming, nagging, and shameless vote-begging actually worked… or at least that’s what I’m telling myself 😅

Tesla have now confirmed that Junction One Retail Park (Wallasey) is officially in their books, with plans for an 8-stall Supercharger by 2026.

So even if my efforts didn’t tip the scales, I like to think I did something positive for my community by raising awareness and showing there’s demand here on Wirral.

Big thank you to everyone who helped share, vote, and support along the way — feels good to know it’s happening! ⚡🙌

 

All good. As long as they make it open to all and not just Tesla cars.

 

I hope so. It's only fair. There are lots of Tesla's on the Wirral but there are a lot more EVs then just Tesla's. I assume they will as it's not going to be a very busy site so in order to make the site "profitable" , they will be forced to open it to all.