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All Season Tyres - Michelin Cross Climate +

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#1 ·
Good morning all,

I've just been quoted £460 to get my advance fitted with some lovely new all season rubber - Michelin Cross Climates.

Has anyone any experience of these tyres on the GTE? I had proper winters for my old Octavia VRS but getting them changed every 6 months was a bit of a faff

Statement re use - i live on top of the pennines, so yes i definitely need them

Simon
 
#2 ·
Opinion here is very good, online reviews look awesome. They seem to be the absolute best winter/summer combination giving a good compromise of the best of both categories. YouTube videos show cars climbing steep hills in deep snow so they certainly work. I'll be getting them later this year!
 
#3 ·
Haven't tried Cross Climates on a GTE but aware that those on the forum who have are happy with them. I had them on a Ford Focus Mk2 and Ford S-max mk 1. Grip and handling were excellent. Road noise OK except on concrete roads at high speed such as sections of the M25 where they were a lot noisier than standard tyres. Mileage slightly worse than standard low resistance tyres but probably about the same as a high performance summer tyre. Like many Michelin tyres wear was slow and supposed to be slower on the new plus version. Given the high wear on the GTE front tyres that is a big attraction.

Your best alternative would be a Goodyear 4seasons Gen 2. This has slightly better winter performance at the expense of some summer performance and greater wear as it is more winter tyre like with softer rubber. I think which you choose depends on the balance of how good winter performance you need vs the tradeoffs the rest of the year.

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#5 ·
I have variously used Black Circles, Kwikfit and Halfords Autocentre as it seems to vary in time and tyre type who is the cheapest. I always use their online prices as they are almost always cheaper than walk up prices.

Recently I have found Costco usually the cheapest if they stock the tyres you want. They will fit them while you wait. This is usually Michelin though I have sometimes seen Goodyear or Michelin in stock. They have an offer on Michelin tyres until 23 Sep - up to £80 off four 18 inch tyres. Their prices have always seemed competitive to me even before the offer. They will fit them while you wait. Could be worth it if you are close enough and hold, know someone or are eligible for membership. Not sure which side of the Penines you are but Costco have warehouses in Leeds, Oldham and Sheffield.

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#7 ·
I ran a set of these on my GTE last winter, and very pleased with them.

They don’t give much away to a snow tyre in the snow, but excellent wet/cold grip and very good in the dry as well.

I’d say they’re perfect for our climate, and if I didn’t have an extra set of wheels would happily use them all year round.
 
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I ran a set of these on my GTE last winter, and very pleased with them.

They don’t give much away to a snow tyre in the snow, but excellent wet/cold grip and very good in the dry as well.

I’d say they’re perfect for our climate, and if I didn’t have an extra set of wheels would happily use them all year round.
Hi Tooks,
Approaching that slippery time of year again which I don't fancy on the bridgestones. Have my eye on a set of very good reasonably priced alloys and was thinking of getting them and putting winters on them . I just need to be sure 16" rims will fit.I think they do but want to be sure. What size do you run? and what tyres. When the original bridgestones are done I will probs get cross climates but I cant justify dumping them yet with probably another good 5-7000 miles wear in them for summer use, just don't fancy them in winter.Thx
Roge
 
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Never driven a GTE (with or without these) but I had them from new on my Octavia since 2015, they were flawless and I had loads of wear left in them when I traded in the car for the leaf. Now have 4 sitting in my garage waiting to be fitted.
 
#11 ·
are these the best recommended all - seasons for this car?
I've had the car 19 months and 15k miles, it came with brand new Goodyear Eagle F1's from the dealer (I'm second owner) and the fronts are now worn to the point where it needs new ones, 1st MOT due very soon and they may even be marginal to pass so it might need to be quick decision. I'm not sure whether to go with the same or not.

In the bad winter 17-18 I really didn't trust this car at all (even when there was plenty tread). left it at home whenever possible when it was snowing. I have a winter wheel/tyre change set on the other car (which is also 4WD) but for various reason don't want to a full 2nd set for the golf hence thinking an all season approach may be on the cards. I'm happy to trade some "boy racer grip" which seems to be what the eagle F1's are oriented at in favour of better all year safety.
 
#13 ·
I gave up fitting winters on my skoda 3 years ago when the crossed climates came out. They've been excellent in all weathers even quite deep snow.

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#14 ·
Yes I would suggest if you want all season cross Climate plus would be best. However it is not recommended to mix them with summer tyres so if you only need the fronts replacing that might not work for you.

As I rarely see snow in the south of England I just have a pair of snow socks that stay in the boot during winter just in case. They worked admirably on the GTE last winter, but you are limited to 30mph with them. I have elastic ones, but when these wear out I will be investing a bit more in zip on snow socks. Might be worth considering if you only need to be out in snow occasionally if you have the other car on winter tyres and you don't want to replace all 4 tyres at once. You only need one pair of snow socks on the driving wheels.

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yes I carry the autosock elastic type snow socks, problem is where I live when we get it really bad the countryside / minor / residential roads are never gritted or cleared, and usually turn to hardpack ice, but the major ones usually clear quickly as there's nothing high altitude or exposed round here. as the snow socks are limited to 30mph and are destroyed by lots of driving on tarmac, for use during such a period of several days it would require whipping them on and off 4 times a day or more and being able to find somewhere safe to stop and do so at the transition from minor to major roads . My wife who uses the car to commute has 4 miles minor + 12 miles dual carriageway A road + 4 miles minor , both home and work are in the countryside, its not practical to be socking and desocking for such a trip. I view snow socks only as an emergency "get you home" system if it comes down really badly one day whilst away from home. so when it was bad last year I send mrs to work in the Q7 with the winter tyres and we did everything to avoid using the Golf. all of which is why I was thinking of putting all seasons on it at this change. bit of a ponder what to do with the rears as they've still got 4mm on them.
 
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Remember the cross climates will give you better grip below 7 degrees when summer tyres progressively start to lose grip. I've found them excellent on icy roads as well as snow. In fact on one occasion I drove into a supermarket car park oblivious to any slipperiness. Once I got out of the car I fell flat on my back due to the ice underfoot.

Hence why I'm taking nearly brand new tyres off my new leaf and fitting the cross climates

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Sorry if I am going slightly off topic here, I have a full set of 17" alloys with proper winter tyres 225/45/17 for my previous Mercedes C class(S204), I believe the wheels have 5 x 112 PCD and 47 offset which is almost identical to the GTE 5 x 112 PCD and 49 offset for the wheels. A figure I found in the internet.
Could any of you guys confirmed if it is correct please?
 
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Yes as far as I am aware the 49mm offset is correct. This was the size info I found independently for Mk 7 golf 17inch wheels - 17" x 7.5J offset 49mm.

I have found this website helpful for checking fit with wheels and tyres, although with a 2mm difference, it seems highly unlikely there would be an issue.
Will They Fit - Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator
 
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#20 ·
Good morning all,

I've just been quoted £460 to get my advance fitted with some lovely new all season rubber - Michelin Cross Climates.

Has anyone any experience of these tyres on the GTE? I had proper winters for my old Octavia VRS but getting them changed every 6 months was a bit of a faff

Statement re use - i live on top of the pennines, so yes i definitely need them

Simon
I had CrossClimates on my BMW 330e and they were superb even in heavy snow. If they work on a BMW they should be good on any car!
 
#22 ·
Good morning all,

I've just been quoted £460 to get my advance fitted with some lovely new all season rubber - Michelin Cross Climates.

Has anyone any experience of these tyres on the GTE? I had proper winters for my old Octavia VRS but getting them changed every 6 months was a bit of a faff

Statement re use - i live on top of the pennines, so yes i definitely need them

Simon
Simon, was your quote for the Cross Climate +? I'm searching for these at the moment but I can only see the XL (reinforced) ones on Black Circles, Asda, KwikFit, MyTyres etc for 235/45/R18s.
 
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It was the same with 1st generation cross climates when they came out. I spoke to the tyre fitter at the time who said they only manufactured them in XL to fit a wider range of cars - you can fit XL to a lighter car which doesn't need the extra reinforcement.

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That may well cause you insurance issues. If you think about what happens if your front tyres grip and the rear end of the car loses grip and goes into a slide. That's why it is not recommended to fit winter tyres only to the front

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#32 ·
Glad someone's now got a video I can point to. I recall several 'arguments' here about this before with people who just wouldn't accept my advice on this.

The truth is that you should always aim to have the same tyres all around, for precisely the same reasons, namely, if the grip is different fore-aft then you will always get these effects at the limit of traction because one axle will give up gripping before the other. Of course, that will always be true, but no need to make it worse if you can help it!!!
 
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#33 ·
Been through this many times on briskoda

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#37 ·
Plenty of videos to show that. This was just one about fitting 2 tyres only.

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