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Cruise control and Regeneration

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#1 ·
I think this standard but could someone please advise

I dont have Active cruise control but when the cruise control is engaged and i pull the regen paddle to regen 3 to slow down it doesnt disengage the cruise control, so i have to go back to the footbrake or the O button on the sterring wheel!
is this normal i would have expected it to disengage the cruise control.?
 
#2 ·
I think this standard but could someone please advise

I dont have Active cruise control but when the cruise control is engaged and i pull the regen paddle to regen 3 to slow down it doesnt disengage the cruise control, so i have to go back to the footbrake or the O button on the sterring wheel!
is this normal i would have expected it to disengage the cruise control.?
According to an on-line version of the User Manual, p131,
"Cruise Control will be canceled when:

• Depressing the brake pedal.
• Pressing the O (CANCEL) buttonlocated on the steering wheel.
• The vehicle is shifted into N (Neutral).
• Decreasing the vehicle speed to less than the memory speed by
approximately 20 km/h (12 mph).
• Decreasing the vehicle speed to less than approximately 30 km/h
(20 mph).
• The ESC (Electronic Stability Control) is operating.

Each of the above actions will cancel Cruise Control operation (the set speed on the instrument cluster will go off), but only pressing the button will turn the system off. If you wish to resume Cruise Control operation, push the toggle switch up (RES+) located on your steering wheel. You will return to your previously preset speed, unless the system was turned off using the button."
 
#4 ·
Thanks Dave thats about what i thought, but regardless of the in my mind it should disengage the cruise. It wouldnt be a problem in the UK because of the active cruise control (mine does not have)
 
#3 ·
Short answer, mine does the same. Another reason to avoid becoming too accustomed to left-paddle-hold to slow down, as if I needed any more. You would think it would simply disable cruise but the car is full of firmware "corner cases" that no-doubt will be eventually sorted out in future versions.
 
#5 ·
The increase in range shown on the dash in the ECO drive setting becomes addictive so use of the Left hand paddle becomes second nature until you realise the vehicle is not slowing down.
 
#6 ·
"Second nature" is exactly the problem, although I'd call it "subconscious". It concerns me that in an emergency situation I would lose the skill of instantly hitting the brake pedal and go for the paddle, useless in this case.

On the subject of the thread however, I tried accelerating past the cruise setpoint and didn't have any issues. I do expect it to regen back to the setpoint once I lift off, but it wasn't oscillating or causing any concern. I use Comfort and Auto Regen disabled.
 
#7 ·
I don't see the confusion. The paddles set the level of regen used when you lift off the throttle - they do not in themselves apply or remove regen.
Cruise control is controlling the throttle as though you were pressing the accelerator pedal, so you shouldn't expect the paddles to have any effect until either the cc or you, via the pedals, request regen.
 
#8 ·
I don't see the confusion. The paddles set the level of regen used when you lift off the throttle - they do not in themselves apply or remove regen.
That's incorrect. If you hold the left paddle for >0.5 seconds it applies maximum regen for as long as it's held, and will bring you to a stop, disabling creep until you move off again
 
#10 ·
There is if you're on a slope and the left paddle can't bring it to a complete stop. Auto Hold is IMHO far more useful, up until you need to manoeuvre in a car park or on the drive. I just ignore the paddles and use the brake pedal, far easier and means you always have your foot in the right place if you suddenly need to brake a lot harder.
 
#17 ·
Yes, exactly - one pedal driving. The application of regen is controlled by the accelerator being in the coasting position. The paddle only sets the 'type' of regen. This is why paddle operation doesn't disengage the cc any more than changing the speed set on it does. You are merely altering a target to be achieved when other conditions allow.

This is where the misunderstanding about the cc comes in. People think that the regen paddles are like brakes because most of the time that's how they appear to function, but that isn't the case. You can press the accelerator and foot brake at the same time and get both functions, but you can't do that with the paddle and accelerator.
 
#20 ·
I tried the left paddle stopping thing a few times and had no faith it was actually going to come to a halt in time, and when it did, it only just stopped. And I don't hoon up behind people, I'm an early and gentle braker. My feeling is that if suddenly the car in front brakes harder, and I'm slowing using the paddle, I have nowhere to go, whereas if I'm braking with my foot, I simply push harder. Safer therefore to brake with the pedal.
 
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#21 · (Edited)
The Kona provides enough choice to suit everyone. I use Eco Mode set to Level 3, never use the paddles (after briefly trying them), and do a one-pedal controlled coast to join red-light queues. Typically I move to the brake pedal only within 2 car lengths of the back of the queue, because the control is so predictable. When the queue is still moving, I don`t change my technique, but I maintain about double typical spacing for all driving. Sometimes other drivers cut in front because of the gap I maintain; I just ease back to restore my spacing. I find this approach mirrors how active cruise control works on maximum spacing for highway driving..