Yes, it has the lane assist function.

I actually quite like it on the motorway, but it’s the first thing I turn off on the typical B roads around here, where the edge of the road and the centre of it are often not wide enough for a car!

 

Does it do a good job of keeping the car in the lane?
That's all the Niro did, and all I want. It could be set so it was only on when the cruise control was on, which was perfect for me.
Kia have Lane Assist as a basic option and it was useless. I assumed the lane assist on the ID3 would be the same.

I looks like they all have lane assist so if that works the only options I want are the matrix lights and alloys.

 

Did you telepath this to me? I was just looking at the terminology VW use. They have 2 systems "Lane Assist" and "Side Assist".

Lane change system Side Assist

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The 1st Edition only has "Lane Assist", it keeps one in the centre of the lane.
Whereas "Side Assist" has a blind spot light built into the door mirror, only available on the Tech, Max and Tour.
Did the Niro have Blind spot detection?

 

Ha ha, didn't know I had the ability to telepathy quotations!

It didn't have blind spot detection, and I don't mind that as I'm well trained in looking over my shoulder before pulling out. I can't imagine missing side assist.

Are they the only two options? I thought there was more of a 'self driving' option.

 

I've got Lane Assist on Life model. Have turned it off. asap. I can take the gentle tug on a motorway, but it's a pain & a danger if it tugs as I'm doing a country-lane-verge manoeuvre on the single-track-with-passing-places roads nearby. VW in their new minimalist way have hidden this setting way down in some menu, needs looking at the screen to do all this & press corect portion of screen to toggle. Impossible to change safely while on the move.

My dealer took me through the menus; when he came to that one with the various safety-stuff bits in, he told me he turns this off as he can't stand it. I agree.

Hyundai Ioniq has a single button on panel at RHS behing steering wheel to toggle this. Easy
VW has complex menu-search to toggle this. Hard.

Hyundai got it right.
VW screwed up.

 

I've got Lane Assist on Life model. Have turned it off. asap. I can take the gentle tug on a motorway, but it's a pain & a danger if it tugs as I'm doing a country-lane-verge manoeuvre on the single-track-with-passing-places roads nearby. VW in their new minimalist way have hidden this setting way down in some menu, needs looking at the screen to do all this & press corect portion of screen to toggle. Impossible to change safely while on the move.

My dealer took me through the menus; when he came to that one with the various safety-stuff bits in, he told me he turns this off as he can't stand it. I agree.

Hyundai Ioniq has a single button on panel at RHS behing steering wheel to toggle this. Easy
VW has complex menu-search to toggle this. Hard.

Hyundai got it right.
VW screwed up.

In the Niro it could be linked to the cruise control and that was perfect. I agree it was only good on main roads.
Can it be switched on/off with the voice control?
@Tooks how do you switch it on or off, sounds like you use it on main roads only.

 

I also worry about anything that's attempting to track the white lines/dashes at side of road, and uses that to guide the car. Tesla had a fatal when their very sophisticated camera system followed a triangular area with shaded white lines that was getting wider. It followed the left edge of this area, which was the slip-lane exit off dual carriageway wih bridge coming up ahead. The body of the car drove onto the ever-widening hatched area, then ploughed into an energy-absorbing crash-barrier protecting the concrete pillar of the bridge. Unfortunately, this crash barrier had already been flattened by pevious impacts, so no energy got absorbed in this case. Tragic.

I am not yet convinced that VW's camera system is necessarily more sophisticated/well developed than Tesla's was back then, and I'm certainly not going to trust my life or hand over any driving esponsibility to that particular feature. Happy to have stuff that adds to my abilities, radar ACC etc, those don't really take away the need to concentrate, and I can't see them doing anyhing too dangerous (unless it brakes unexpectedly, but tha probably means I'm doing somehing wrong to begin with).

Image processing & line following is not a trivial task. Add in broken/warn lines, etc, just makes it exponentially harder.

Some years back, a US project tried ot get an autonomous vehicle to follow a path between 2 well defined lines. Front-facing camera took a picture of what was ahead, looked for two sharp edges, one on left, one on right, converging slightly, and steered the vehicle between the 2 lines. Easy task to follow a perfectly marked one-way street with no obstacles whatsoever. Even I could code that one up!

They tested this out in the open air somewhere, roughish terrain (I think this was a military off-road thing). Camera saw a tall tree with no branches to speak of in frame, edge-detected it, got 2 nice converging edges, and drove straight into the tree!

It's the same issue as Tesla have. How do you distinguish what's a proper line, from what's been painted in error, or painted correctly but with a different meaning than expected. You need a very, very sophisticated model in the car's brain to handle this stuff.

 

Not after full self driving, I think that's many years away, just like being kept in the middle of the lane.
I still expect to have to steer the car but the assistance is helpful.

 

I found the Niro lane assist dangerous on small country roads, and I still do lots of that type of driving. With a car coming the other way it is necessary to get very close to the side of the road at times and the Niro would try to steer me away from the edge. I had it happen 2 or 3 times and then switched it off every time I got in the car. It was also annoying on main roads as it didn't really help.

Their LKAS was an additional feature and was set to only come on when the cruise control was active. It still wasn't accurate enough to steer the car fully but I did try taking my hands off the wheel and it would follow the lane fairly accurately, but not accurately enough to be able to switch off. It sounds like it would be the sort of thing that would annoy me but it just made driving on main roads easier, especially at night.

 

Same. When driving home from the dealership I felt the car lightly adjust itself but in no way is it dangerous. In fact I found auto braking and steering made my whole journey home easier but I can understand how it could be disconcerting for those not in the know.

 

It doesn't work below 30mph so will not bug you round town. I think that is a wise decision.

 

Does it definitely not work under 30mph? When I had a test drive I found the lane keep assist very annoying on the narrow single track roads round here.

Maybe I'm more of a country yokel than I realised, but I don't think I consistently drive above 30mph there, especially in an unfamiliar car that isn't mine... 🤔

 

Under 30 might be enough to stop it being a problem.
The Niro wasn't really strong and was easily overridden but it was the feeling of the wheel turning towards the oncoming car and having to adjust the steering while very close to the edge of the road already.
It was just something that needed reacting to in an already tight situation and is really unhelpful, and very disconcerting the first couple of times.

I'm sure I could get used to it and learn to allow for it, but 'safety' features that can surprise me, and have the potential to cause an accident, haven't been fully thought through, imo, and should be easy to switch off.

 

I wonder if you can switch it off by voice control. With appropriate adjectives of course.

 

Maybe someone could try that out

 

Not lived with the lane assist long but on the small roads can feel it but positive grip of wheel for the various bends that exist around here means its just a slight pressure. Might be different on longer straights on rural roads - time will tell.

Had a Kia ICE for hire in US and that did have a tendency to want to follow slip roads, did not notice that with ID3. The ID3 on motorway was better at indicating knowledge of lane and I think with a sat nav route the ID3 seems to use this to figure out where you should be going.

 

The voice control won't let you control safety critical equipment for obvious reasons.

 

I've gone from hoping the car would keep me in the centre of the lane on dual carriageways to realising the lane assist will annoy me and I'd have to remember to switch it off each time I get in the car.

Is the screen still slow to respond when you first start the car?

 

It’s a bit like the e-Golf when you first start it and then go into the car or nav menu, it sometimes says this is not yet available.

I’m still on 0564 though, a YT review of ME2.0 I watched shows it’s a bit snappier from the get go.

 

ME2.0 is deffo slow booting up the central screen Operating System. Easy to get the "This menu is not available" message, so you wait 30 secs and it then appears. No doubt this will get improved. OS may be doing boot-up memory checks etc, or they'll get round to changing the priority of the underlying processes so the screen-facing ones boot faster, at the expense of more background ones (phone stuff, radio stuff, network comms stuff,...).
Anyone not familiar with OSes & just how many "programs" are running "simultaneously" in the background might be surprised. I don't know how many ID.3 has which affect/interact with the central console, but a figure of >100 would not surprise me at all. Just do "ps -lae" on a Linux system for a taste...