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EV Public Charging Cost vs ICE

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#1 · (Edited)
Of course we all know that the cost of "fuel" for EV is much cheaper if you can charge from home. But if you can't?

I see a mix of opinions where some say EV public charging is much more expensive than diesel or petrol, and others say it is about the same. So I thought I'd do some research and math for the case of the UK in 2025. And work out a cost per mile that is only for fuel, excluding maintenance, service, repairs, insurance, the cost of buying the car etc.

Electricity
For fast charging I take 76p/kWh (a calculated average of Instavolt 87p, Osprey 82, Gridserve 79, Ionity 74, Podpoint 69, MFG 70, Tesla 60p).
For slow charging I use 52p/kWh (used Chat GPT to get that number).
The average of fast and slow is 64p/kWh.

For miles per kWh I settled on 2.9 as an average after checking various sources online. (The average of sources was 3.3, I changed it to 2.9 to account for charging losses.)

That gives us 18p per mile at slow paid public chargers (52/2.9), 26p per mile at fast chargers and 22p per mile for the average of both.

Petrol
I take £1.35 per litre assuming you charge at supermarkets mostly and very occasionally at a motorway service station and I assume 36.5 miles per gallon and 4.54 litres per UK gallon (average of various sources online) which gives me 17p per mile.

Diesel
£1.40/litre and 43 miles per gallon (various sources) gives us 15p/mile.

Price Parity Point
So if you are relying on fast chargers it's more expensive, if you can mainly use a 40-50p charger it's about the same.

I calculate an EV charging price of 43p/kWh to equal diesel and 49p/kWh to equal petrol.

Conversely, if petrol rises to £1.77 that would equal the average of all chargers, or £2.10 per litre to equal the average of fast chargers.

EDIT: After reviewing the comments I think the consensus is that my calculations are about right, but maybe a bit harsh on the EV side. 76p/kWh average for fast charging perhaps a bit high as I didn't consider subscriptions.
 
#63 ·
Thing is, this is not really something that matters for the vast majority of people. It is the different between needs and wants, if I was not driving my EV and in an ICE I would still want something that seats 4 and a sub 4 seconds 0-60mph. That isn’t going to be a 40mpg car.

When I bought my 1st EV it was a toss up between that and an M5, the thing that swung my decision was the £500 a month fuel bill that the BMW was going to end up costing me. So I dropped into EV ownership in the June and did not have home charging until the following January, 28,000 miles in the 1st year.

I jumped in the car and drove to Middlesbrough in a single stretch recently, 291 miles in 5 hours with 9% remaining on arrival. I regularly drive to Glasgow ~450 miles, usually 1 stop for charging, in each direction, and another while I am there.

In reality I don’t need any more range or in reality faster charging, I have never found it an issue. For some it can be more expensive, given their use case of the vehicle, it is up to them if it is a price worth paying. Same as paying a premium for filling up at a motorway service station, you pay more, someone said that above too.

I don’t get excited by the thought of 600mile ranges or even 800v speedy charging, door bins might be nice though, but I don’t have to look far to find them.

I am not waiting for further range or fast charging, since I do not need them, and most people probably don’t but just don’t realise that. But I might want a new car and might get those things as I update, it won’t be the driver though.

If everyone actually sat down and honestly worked out the total cost of ownership on the car they run regardless of flavour, there would probably be a lot less new ones purchased, but again what you need vs what you want.