As a LEAF owner, thought it might be interesting and useful to know about any new or recent CHAdeMO charger installations around the UK.
NEW (or recent) CHAdeMO installations
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That's a very helpful table, @Alexa . Thank you! Interesting that the e-NV200 is the second most common Chad vehicle, although hardly anyone notices it, and how few there are of the triplets. I'll remember the "about 7%" of all BEV for back-of-envelope calculations and look up the table when I want better.
There is a probable small source of CHAdeMO vehicles not mentioned -- imports of used cars from Japan. I'd consider a Nissan Sakura, for example, as a city car -- and it's sold new only in Japan, so has a Chad rather than a CCS2 connector. [Stage directions: checks Nissan web sites to make sure it has two round charging connectors.]
If CHAdeMO chargers do become too rare to be helpful, there will probably be some used CCS2-CHAdeMO adaptors around for less than their £1000-ish price tag today.
There is a probable small source of CHAdeMO vehicles not mentioned -- imports of used cars from Japan. I'd consider a Nissan Sakura, for example, as a city car -- and it's sold new only in Japan, so has a Chad rather than a CCS2 connector. [Stage directions: checks Nissan web sites to make sure it has two round charging connectors.]
If CHAdeMO chargers do become too rare to be helpful, there will probably be some used CCS2-CHAdeMO adaptors around for less than their £1000-ish price tag today.
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From my recent experience of selling my 30kw Leaf, part exchanged it because I wanted to avoid any faff and they basically ripped it out of my hands when they found out it was 12/12 battery bars, saying how quickly they shift them off the forecourt to first time ev buyers
We need chademo to convince these people the network of public chargers is there for them when they get their next ev and help the industry as a whole
Also the fact they're still installing them suggests it's worth it for the provider...
We need chademo to convince these people the network of public chargers is there for them when they get their next ev and help the industry as a whole
Also the fact they're still installing them suggests it's worth it for the provider...
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Not a new Chademo install but an old one...
Longish trip last night for another FB bargain. Started at 10 out of 12 bars in the tank. Route was A1, Edinburgh City Bypass, M8...
Anyway, drove all the way to the destination to collect the item and then back to Edinburgh.
Surprisingly, all the new rapids, 5?, were in use with someone waiting
But in the corner out of the way is an old rapid with Chad! Happy days, lol! £4.06 for a quick graze to get back down the A1.
Cheers!
Longish trip last night for another FB bargain. Started at 10 out of 12 bars in the tank. Route was A1, Edinburgh City Bypass, M8...
Anyway, drove all the way to the destination to collect the item and then back to Edinburgh.
Surprisingly, all the new rapids, 5?, were in use with someone waiting
But in the corner out of the way is an old rapid with Chad! Happy days, lol! £4.06 for a quick graze to get back down the A1.
Cheers!
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A colleague of mine from Huddersfield is completely reliant upon public rapid charging. It's grim.. and apparently at least half of the chargers have been broken or out of service for a long time now. Population of the town - about 300k.
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Yep, way to many broken chargers that never seem to get fixed plus a complete lack of rapids where I need to go. Obviously solved by a longer range EV but got a diesel so it’s the EV that’s for sale now.
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Wikipedia gives the population as 142k, not 300k . Even so, the UK average is 18 rapids per 100k pop, so on that basis you should expect about 25 rapids and Huddersfield appears below average.
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Yeah, the town is about 150k and the wider environs add up to around 300k if you include all the villages with HD postcodes. Rapids are pretty scarce (and often not working) even in the wider Kirklees region.
Hopefully when the town is redeveloped the situation will change.. but I'm glad I'm not reliant upon public rapids.
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I could probably cope with a 64kWh battery and low mileage: charge it up once every 2-3 weeks.
But a small battery EV with a failed OBC must be a real pain. Fortunately my colleague's LEAF charging problem seems to have cured itself, but I'm not sure I'd feel confident about relying on it now.
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It's intriguing that MFG (a good Chademo provider) invested heavily in Greater Manchester and built a few in Leeds/Bradford but not even one in Huddersfield (see Zap Map filtered to that provider and you'll see what I mean).
These random anomalies can be so frustrating. Won't someone kindly plug the gaps?
These random anomalies can be so frustrating. Won't someone kindly plug the gaps?
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Even more strange looking at the MFG app. About 15 MFG hubs in Manchester, several hubs in most major cities, plenty dotted along main routes, but not even a single rapid in Liverpool or Sheffield.
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Yorkshire coast is another wasteland without rapids (never mind CHAdeMO)..
I was planning to take the LEAF 40 for a day trip to Filey, but it looks like a nightmare 100 mile round-trip gap between Filey and most of the charging hubs around York. No destination chargers in Filey itself either. The ones listed on the map are in holiday parks. If I charged to 100% around York, I could just make it to Filey and back again on a single charge before topping up to get back to civilisation.
Affordable EVs with sub-50kWh batteries are limited as a complete replacement for petrol cars until the charging network improves (a lot). That means many families are still being locked into keeping their ICE cars. Trains aren't much of an alternative either as they are so expensive when 4 people are travelling together, even with railcards. In this area, the LEAF is really only viable as a commuting car, which is a shame.
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I was planning to take the LEAF 40 for a day trip to Filey, but it looks like a nightmare 100 mile round-trip gap between Filey and most of the charging hubs around York. No destination chargers in Filey itself either. The ones listed on the map are in holiday parks. If I charged to 100% around York, I could just make it to Filey and back again on a single charge before topping up to get back to civilisation.
Affordable EVs with sub-50kWh batteries are limited as a complete replacement for petrol cars until the charging network improves (a lot). That means many families are still being locked into keeping their ICE cars. Trains aren't much of an alternative either as they are so expensive when 4 people are travelling together, even with railcards. In this area, the LEAF is really only viable as a commuting car, which is a shame.
Isn't there an Instavolt about half way between Filey and Scarborough? There is a rather busy single Pod Point rapid in Bridlington. A 22 kW AC charger appears to be at Reighton Nurseries a few miles from Filey. And three rapids of inferior brands in Malton/Norton-on-Derwent just off the A64 if you're taking that route to York.
I agree the charging provision is very poor along that part of the north coast. But I had a week holiday nearby (Bempton) this spring and we coped all right, including one day out to the National Trust's Ormesby Hall, where we charged the car as well as having a good day with too-rarely-met family. Almost the same battery as a LEAF 40, in a narrower but much taller vehicle.
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Yeah, I'd like to take the Leaf down the A1 stretch to Newcastle.
Say I grab a topup at Dunbar as Granthouse BP rapid may or may not be working the next stop is really Berwick upon Tweed where there are three scattered rapids which I've had to order an RFID card for. Then there is the long Leap to Alnwick so you really have to be committed as there is no going back.
In an ideal world after driving EV for seven years there would be roadside rapids on major routes... Appears not, lol!
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Yes there's isolated rapid chargers in that area but likely to be busy with the volume of tourists around in the summer. Or broken, then you're stuffed! Not worth the risk and potential earache from fellow travellers..
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There's a 2x Instavolt south of Scarborough, plus a 4x Instavolt in central Scarborough.
For some reason the latter one has turned grey on ZapMap as the power info has gone blank,
so if you filter on 50kW+ it disappears. If you only filter on Chademo and/or CCS it shows up.
(Quite a few Instavolts have this issue since about last week ).
There was a planning application for some rapids at the Shell garage just off the A64/A1039 Filey Road that came and went, I assume there is little in the way of available power in that area. As stated by others, the 2 InstaVolt at McDonald's Seamer are a short detour, else there are 2 BP Pulse and a working GeniePoint in Malton if you need to bail out on the way back to the outskirts of York. Coming soon will be 4 InstaVolt a couple of miles north of York right next to the A64 and two more InstaVolts on the north side of Bridlington. It's still not enough and hubs are needed considering holiday traffic. That said, most EVs should easily make the 80 miles round trip between the York hubs and Filey.
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Just received this from Insatavolt... Account marked for deletion. Well thanks Insta for not installing much needed rapids on any of my routes... Seems like a ploy to get you to agree to T&Cs that make a novel look like headline for a service they are selling. Think I'll just withdraw the quid and delete the account
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Yes, the 80-100 miles gap between Filey and York hubs should be possible without low battery warnings if I charge the LEAF close to 100%. However it will be a pain waiting for that last 80-100% to fill up at about 10kW or less. Also not great for the non-cooled battery to push it that hard.
The odd chargers in between or nearby would help if they weren't practically guaranteed to be either broken or very busy in peak holiday season.
Normally we'd just admit defeat and use the petrol car but it's in need of repair.
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