I wonder if anyone here has much experience of condensing oil boilers.
I recently had a new one (an external one) fitted to replace a very old non condensing internal one.
I understand that oil condenses at lower return temps than gas (47c Vs 55?)
The lowest setting on the thermostat is 55, however that is far too low too either heat the DHW adequately/quickly and generally too low for some of the radiators, especially the upstairs ones which are all single panel.
It's a Grant boiler and they state not to run return temp lower than 40C
Which seems pretty pointless.
Anyway, the only time the boiler seems to condense (ie water dripping from the condense pipe) is on first start up, ie when the rads are really cold.
Even setting the boiler thermostat at 55, it only condenses at the start but has stopped condensing well before it gets to bouncing on the boiler thermostat.
Basically it barely condenses once the return temp is above about 30C it would seem.
Oil boilers don't modulate, but what is the ideal way to run these, ie pump speed, flow temp?
I've just gone back to setting the thermostat at max (75c), as I can't see setting the flow temp would actually make any difference once the return temp gets above about 30c.
On a normal day (it's fairly cold at the mo) I reckon about 1 litre of condensate is produced in a 24 hour period. Boiler is burning for around 4 or 5 hours on average.
So if one litre of concentrate represents about 600W of saved energy, it seems a pretty pointless saving on 80-100kwh of energy used given the added complexity and reduced life of a condensing Vs non condensing model. It's less than 1% additional efficiency.
I recently had a new one (an external one) fitted to replace a very old non condensing internal one.
I understand that oil condenses at lower return temps than gas (47c Vs 55?)
The lowest setting on the thermostat is 55, however that is far too low too either heat the DHW adequately/quickly and generally too low for some of the radiators, especially the upstairs ones which are all single panel.
It's a Grant boiler and they state not to run return temp lower than 40C
Which seems pretty pointless.
Anyway, the only time the boiler seems to condense (ie water dripping from the condense pipe) is on first start up, ie when the rads are really cold.
Even setting the boiler thermostat at 55, it only condenses at the start but has stopped condensing well before it gets to bouncing on the boiler thermostat.
Basically it barely condenses once the return temp is above about 30C it would seem.
Oil boilers don't modulate, but what is the ideal way to run these, ie pump speed, flow temp?
I've just gone back to setting the thermostat at max (75c), as I can't see setting the flow temp would actually make any difference once the return temp gets above about 30c.
On a normal day (it's fairly cold at the mo) I reckon about 1 litre of condensate is produced in a 24 hour period. Boiler is burning for around 4 or 5 hours on average.
So if one litre of concentrate represents about 600W of saved energy, it seems a pretty pointless saving on 80-100kwh of energy used given the added complexity and reduced life of a condensing Vs non condensing model. It's less than 1% additional efficiency.