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Russia bans the export of diesel

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#1 ·
I have just picked up on news that Russia has banned the export of diesel. This has been picked up in the Shipping trade press. My initial thoughts are the UK probably isn't buying diesel from Russia any more? But one thing is certain, Russian oil is responsible for making a lot of diesel. It is a heavier oil than North Sea oil and contains a high proportion of the diesel and kerosene fractions. It is likely that the price of both heating oil and diesel will climb on the markets this coming week. Those with oil fired heating will likely have filled their tanks by now, ouch if you haven't!

Of course there could be a spin off making EVs and second hand EVs more attractive. Folks who have been tempted to remain with their fossil fuel cars because electricity seems so expensive might get their fingers burnt this time. Diesel is already more expensive than petrol, let us wonder how much more the differential will grow? And over the last 12 months rail freight operators ditched electric traction for diesel because it was cheaper (they won't be worried about excise duty and VAT) and some older but serviceable electric engines have been sold to Bulgaria. I suspect that there will be a hurry back to electric traction. A diesel engine can consume 25 litres an hour just idling at signals, though it can also haul 2,000 tons of aggregate the equivalent of about 60 lorry loads!
 
#4 ·
What is the diesel used for? 😂
I was under impression that we are EV forum, so no diesel here 😎
(I know that this will push prices on food etc even further but couldn't resist)
 
#6 · (Edited)
What is the diesel used for? 😂
I was under impression that we are EV forum, so no diesel here 😎
(I know that this will push prices on food etc even further but couldn't resist)
Individual transport is “solved” as in BEVs are perfect for every use-case, and the only thing holding back mass adoption is misinformation in the popular press and lack of affordable charging provision for those without off-street parking.

Vehicles used for the transport of goods, agricultural equipment, and other such, are still predominantly diesel-powered. However we really are on the cusp of those being battery-electric too. They just need a “nudge” in order to transition and a decent “fuel crisis” really could be that nudge.
 
#5 ·
Most trucks, and many trains still run on diesel, therefore supply chain costs across the board will rise.
In the UK, the biggest railfreight operator (DB Cargo) has recently just retired all it's electric locos, presumably because Network Rail were charging them a lot more for the electricity when wholesale electricity prices where high.
Whether the obvious increase in the worldwide cost of diesel will get them to reconsider that decision is a big question.
 
#7 ·
Fuel costs have been going up here and Macron was interviewed on mainstream TV last night (we had the elections for the upper house yesterday) and he has announced another cheque energie of 100 euros for those who need their car for commuting to work. Seems to me they expect prices to go in only 1 direction.
 
#8 ·
DB cargo may not have the easiest of routes for electric trains? Some of the routes involving heavy aggregate trains go over mostly unelectrified lines. However new multi fuel hybrid engines are arriving, as yet in small numbers but if successful the mileage on diesel will be limited. Northampton to Glasgow is generally electric haules often with 2 older engines in order to keep up with paths between express passenger trains. Must be quite exciting pulling 50 containers behind 7MW of pulling power!
 
#13 ·
Further information is that there are fuel shortages in Russia and it is harvest time. Quite possibly they need to steal grain too? Their export market has been Brazil and India. Brazil will go back to the States for its fuel, Europe will need to go to the Middle East. There should not be a shipping shortage, possibly the reverse but a couple of new crude super tankers, not yet soiled by crude oil could help shift an awful lot of diesel up from the Middle East.