This car has been on sale since the beginning of December but it is sold now. He started at £17K and he had to drop down to £15 to get sale.

 

This car has been on sale since the beginning of December but it is sold now. He started at £17K and he had to drop down to £15 to get sale.

Now that's a significant reduction.

 

Weren't they doing pre-reg ones for about 18-19k recently?

 

The lowest the Trophy got to was £20.5k new for basic white.

 

Occasionally private sales can bring some intersting deals, like this one (now sold..):

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I’d go with the newer one too, even at a couple of grand more.

I was told by an MG dealer recently, that the MG5 has ceased production and there is an MG4 Tourer due any time soon.

How true it is, I don’t know.

 

How do people only manage to do 8k miles in 3 years?

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Likely a pre-reg, or a demo that was sat around for ages and maybe only used some of the time.

 

High mileage LEAF 40 for the price of a used Corsa petrol.

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2 miles per kwh on that mg4, I know it's been cool weather but someone's got a lead foot

 

With that mileage, maybe they've been doing a 3-mile journey each day with the heating turned up to max.. ?

 

Out-of-warranty Kona 64kWh is about the same price as the LEAF 62kWh now..

 

Out-of-warranty Kona 64kWh is about the same price as the LEAF 62kWh now..
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I'd choose that over the LEAF, much as I love the LEAF, battery degradation on it's early tech, passively cooled only pack is much worse than all other water cooled battery EV's.

I quite like running out of warranty cars as well, always have done. Hate having to interact with slimy dealers every year whilst in warranty, getting overcharged and having the, often, not very competent staff, messing around with my cars!

Yeah, there's some risk, but I can do most stuff myself and battery and major component failure is pretty unlikely.

 

^^ about 6 years so the important question is how long are batteries expected to last and how much to replace them?

 

Unless you're unlucky and get a bad one, most batteries are good for at least 150k miles before they get down to 80% SOC, time, we don't know yet, but it's looking more and more like the life of the car in most cases.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if that Kona still has "100%" battery health.

 

I'd be more worried about the motor than the battery on the Kona

 

Late last night I saw a picture of an awesome Jenson Interceptor which had been converted to an EV.

An absolute bargain whatever the cost.

Gaz

 

Yeah, that's a great car, well converted. Knowing who converted it though and what they charge, you might want to rethink that last sentence, unless you're very wealthy indeed!

 

Ripe for EV conversion.
35k resto in 2021
Bargain...

An EV conversion would give a range of around 200 miles which is sufficient for this type of vehicle.

Gaz

 

My wife's car was bought 1 year old with 9K on the clock it now has 33K on the clock but we bought it in 2010! A Renault Twingo. So far it has had a cambelt (preventative because of the age) and a clutch linkage otherwise just a new set of plugs, oil and filters etc. talk about cheap to run!

 

There's a bunch of 3-year-old EV6s on Autotrader at around £22k.

 

I tend to think recommending specific used cars is a bad idea because when one is priced significantly below others of the same model and age, it usually means there is something hidden wrong with it. However in terms of models there are so many good options out there at low prices now. For cars with up to 4 years and 60k miles (often much less) you can easily find:
eUp, Corsa-e - now under £10k
500e, e208, Mini, Mokka-e, eC4 - all from around £11k
Kona, e2008 - from around £12k
i3, ID3 - from about £12-13k
eNiro - from around £14k
Honda-e - from about £14-15k
Model 3 - from around £16k
Enyaq 60, Megane - from around £17k
ID4, Polestar 2 - from around 18k
Ioniq 5, Mustang Mach-E, EQA - from £18-19k
I-Pace - from around £20k
EV6 - from around £21k
Q4, Enyaq 80, XC40 - from £21-22k

Etc

There are loads of great used EVs out there at affordable prices now!

 

I thought it would be interesting to briefly repeat this exercise and see if much had changed since March (still up to 4 years and 60k miles, no Cats). The summary seems to be, prices are continuing to come down as the volumes of EVs available at these ages and mileages increases. There are plenty of affordable cars out there now from established OEMs at ages that should allow for years of reliable motoring.

Corsa - from about £8.5k
eUp, 500e - from around £9k
e208, Mokka, eC4, Mini, Kona - from about 10k
e2008, i3, ID3 - from about £11k
Niro - from £11-12k
Honda-e - from about £12-13k
Model 3, Enyaq 60 - from £14-15k
ID4 - from about £15k
Ioniq 5 - from about £15-16k
Megane, Polestar 2, iPace - from £16-17k
Mustang Mach-e, Enyaq 80 - from about £17-18k
EQA, EV6, Q4 - from about £18k
XC40 - from about £19-20k

 

I'm not sure I'd recommend a 24kWh Leaf or a Zoe unless you know what you are getting into.

There just aren't many choices in the sub 15k range so it's either an early battery with high degradation or pay a fair bit more. I'm surprised by how well the eNiro keeps its value considering that new cars with similar specs are going for £18k now.

Some interesting points about high mileage. The Korean batteries do seem to last forever.

 

I like Mr EV but I think that video feels at least two years out of date - recommending Ioniqs, Leafs and eNiros in the £10-20k range feels very weird now. That was what prompted me to write the post above.
As you can see from my post, there are in fact lots of options sub £15k.

 

I thought the high battery degradation myth was a thing of the past these days?

 

I think it is, except for the LEAF (and Zoe?) passively cooled battery

 

 

Hmm would you really buy a Tesla in 2025 though?

 

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Are the early ID3s okay? I remember there were a lot of problems but mostly software. I remember Bjorn did a video about the battery degradation but I don't remember what he found.

 

Yes, they are fine, the software isn't perfect but it does an OK job now, it's more stable and with far fewer bugs than when it came out. Battery deg isn't a problem. They tend to lose about 5% fairly quickly (under a year) and then plateau and drop more slowly atter that. You might expect a 4 yo car to have lost up to 10% - you can get a battery health check if you get an approved used one. Its similar to other brands. Separately, there was a recall programme for defective battery cells in ID cars and Bjorn had one that clearly needed the recall doing (I can't remember whether it was an ID3 or ID4). It's not a bad thing as it means any overly degraded cells on 1-3 year old cars (now 2-4 years old) were replaced. Every car had a battery check and then a module replacement if needed, at the time of the update to software 3.2. Most are now on 3.7, it's worth making sure any car you look at is up to date.

 

I'm wondering what people think of this red Ioniq 6 as an alternative to a used Tesla for long distance journeys? According to EV database, a long range M3 gets 4 stars for 'long distance suitability' which few other (semi) affordable used cars seem to get (eg ID3 Pro S only 3 stars). The Ioniq 6 also gets 4 stars.

Only 2 stars for dog suitability though, the dog wouldn't like the boot.

Edit - a bit amateur from the dealer taking a picture of the GOM in the middle of winter - but realistic perhaps.

 

I think that’s a very decent alternative to the Model3. I’d definitely consider something like that. Not driven one but I think it would be a bit better built, with less creaks and rattles than a Tesla.
I like this thread, will be paying close attention to some of the deals when it’s time for my Model
3 to go back.

 

We're going to see a lot more cheap Kia eNiro 64kWh and Soul 64kWh on the used market now as 2019 cars come close to the warranty cut-off points (7 years; 100k miles).

Already seen more Kona 64 come onto the market at more affordable used prices, so long as you don't mind the lack of warranty. Dealer service history can also be patchy on some of the cheapest Konas.

I'm slightly suspicious of YouTube videos that don't mention the potential faults that crop-up in these cars though. Seems like there's an omerta on the wheel of fortune noise.. and maybe they are right: the problem doesn't affect all cars as I'm sure plenty of Kia / Hyundai owners on this forum can confirm.

 

Ex taxi, big battery, pfl MG5….

Offer them £7.5k and it’s probably a deal.


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This is a bargain, needs a steering wheel but they’re £60 off eBay.


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I like that some dealers are including service history details on their listings now.. which is particularly important for Kia EVs to check that the warranty is actually valid (or not, as is sometimes the case

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That listing highlights that the 3rd service was outside the 1000 miles leeway.