Great, we will try it out for our journey back to London from Germany on Saturday!

 

Looks good, but doesn't give distances or speeds in miles. Is it possible to fix that soon for us UK users?

 

You can change it in preferences. Click on the logo in the top left corner then preferences.

I like it but it seems to crash a lot for me.

 

Just a heads up: I searched for "a better route planner" (with that spacing) on Google Play Store and it was way down the list of apps that came up. Maybe if I'd missed out the space between "route" and "planner" like their app title does, it would have been at the top of the list.

 

If you include the double quotes so it looks for the phrase then even with that spacing it isn't far from the top. Without the extra space between "route" and "planner" it does indeed come at the top.

But even simpler, here's the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iternio.abrpapp

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With Android Auto support this would be fantastic.

 

I changed it to British in preferences but it still displayed distances in km.

 

Same

 

When it calculates the route and charging points, it provides the distance in between in miles, for me anyway.

 

Ah right yes - I checked the individual legs and they are in miles. However the total distance (in a grey font in the summary) is still in km, and that is what I looked at.

However, I would never trust this app to plan a route for me as it directed me to a charger (same one twice, outward and return) which I know to be non-functional. It also suggested charging both times when I had a passenger on board, which up until now I have avoided by charging before pickup or after drop-off.

 

I’ve tested the iPhone app a little bit today and there are quite few bugs currently. Also a few things you can’t do in the app that you can do via the mobile website. Definitely looks promising though. I gather they are planning to try and make it available via android auto & car play at some point.

 

The ABRP app doesn’t seem to change the car efficiency if you lower max speed.
You use the same energy at 70mph as 30mph in the app wheres the web version makes allowances.

Early days for them yet but I have fed this back

 

"Contains ads", sigh.

 

Nice update to ABRP today:

#### 4.0.45 New plan options, live traffic re-routing

Lots of new goodies in this version!

• Driving mode now displays alternative plans along the way, which update as you drive so that you can select other options and know the difference in total trip time
• For our Premium members, ABRP now does real-time traffic re-routing, avoiding traffic jams, closed roads etc - available for selected countries/states
• Some requested planning settings have been added: Minimum number of stalls and the ability to ask for less chargers or shorter driving legs (more chargers). Both options are "soft" settings meaning that we will not use them as hard requirements but as a preferred way of planning - in the end, we just want to deliver the best overall plan to you.

 

Picky I know, but would be better if they used the correct terminology: Rapid, not Fast.

 

I guess that in this case they mean fast as in not slow.

Personally, I think the whole slow/fast/rapid/ultra-rapid/HPC thing should be stopped, and instead we should just get used to distinguishing different chargers by maximum kW output.

 

ZapMap now works like this and is better for it.

 

Traditionally, slow = 3kW, fast = 7kW, rapid > 7 kW, but I agree that specifying the actual rate is far better and avoids the conflicting usage.

 

Traditionally, slow = 3kW, fast = 7kW, rapid > 7 kW

Maybe in the UK (although I’m not sure if many have ever really considered less than 22kW to be 'rapid')….but ABRP is an international app….for example, in the US they have traditionally used the term "DC fast charger" to refer to 50kW+ 'rapids'.

 

I have been looking at ABRP and thought it looked pretty good, a handy tool. BUT is it worth the money? Why are so many things subscription based?! Does anyone know if you subscribe can you use it on various devises? I have an app that I subscribe to on my iPad, I would need a second subscription if I wanted it my iPhone. Grrrr. Hate that.

 

Why are they subscription based? To earn an income to help sustain and develop the app and pay people's wages. Unless you want it clogged up with adverts or just expect them to do it from the goodness of their heart.

The subscription model is a way of offering flexibility, you could pay £100 and use it once in your lifetime or pay £5 a month and only subscribe when you need it i.e. road trips or holidays. Ultimately it offers usually businesses a better revenue stream while providing those customers the flexibility. Yes it could over time ultimately cost a lot but as a nation we're moving more and more to what things cost monthly rather than what they would cost outright.

You're paying for your account, as far as I'm aware you can swap it to different devices. You're not paying for a device subscription.

 

So does anyone use this? Is it worth the money or stick with the free version?

 

I don't use it as a nav tool while driving, just use it for route planning. I'll also probably stop the sub once my usual long distance journeys are sussed out.

 

I subscribed for a while and have given up. The route planning part is fine - but as a nav app used via car play it’s crap. Sorry - but compared to Apple maps and Google maps the traffic nav and re routing is flakey. Lots of sudden shifts in the zoom and perspective.

best thing was the anticipated SOC upon arrival which is good.

sorry - I know there’s a lot of love for ABRP on here but it didn’t work for me.

 

Thanks for that @motmot , I also use Google and Apple maps, but in my ICE, the head up display makes using the inbuilt sat nav great. Think I will also stick with the cars sat nav.

 

I like the link (via Tronity) to the cars consumption to update soc and where you may need to charge live. This is what the nav in the car (id3) should be capable of doing (but doesn’t). But for the number of times I’ve needed it live (a handful) it’s been easy enough to pull into a charger that I already know/have researched etc… feel a bit bad pulling my sub as I like how they operate and what they’re trying to do but it’s not quite right for me.

 

I ‘won’ a years subscription to ABRP as a Bjorn Patreon, have to say that I agree with @motmot that the CarPlay implementation is poor and I’d say unusable.

Maybe I need to spend more time with it, but it shouldn’t be that impenetrable to use in the car.

 

I've only used the free version, but i did find the navigation mode pretty horrible, and ended up just using it as a route planner, and feeding the stops into google maps. It was very laggy, and seemed much worse than Google at actually caching the map data, so if you've got patchy reception the map often wouldnt load correctly.

Live SOC would be handy, but we found that we could just reopen the ABRP app and it would update showing the expected amount and we could compare that with how we were doing.

 

I think I remember seeing map caching mentioned in a recent release. It was something they were working on for sure.

 

The other day, I stumbled across these posts by a user on another forum, and thought they distilled very nicely what ABRP is good for (and isn’t currently so good for).

 

I personally do maintain the sub at the mo because I want to support what they are doing - and no one else really offers anything nearly as good, yet.