Bit of a random find and I have no idea when this came out, but was looking for something else and stumbled upon a link to the Haynes website which is showing manuals for the old and new Zoe. My first though was one of surprise as I didn't think Haynes were making any more manuals.

Anyway, the link Haynes Autofix

I have the emanual for the 2013 Zoe and it isn't really complete and is frustrating to use so would be happy to find a better manual.
Just curious if anyone has bought this?

well done good find

 

It seems like its only for the Q90? Link to the other zoe (2019) on their website: ZOE | Haynes Publishing

 

Bit of a random find and I have no idea when this came out, but was looking for something else and stumbled upon a link to the Haynes website which is showing manuals for the old and new Zoe. My first though was one of surprise as I didn't think Haynes were making any more manuals.

Anyway, the link Haynes Autofix

I have the emanual for the 2013 Zoe and it isn't really complete and is frustrating to use so would be happy to find a better manual.
Just curious if anyone has bought this?

I wonder even if this physical paper manual or just an online version? - looks like / sounds like its just an online manual only

 

It does say it is an online only product, I'm not expecting anything more really.

Models covered is a bit weak and seems to be the Q210 or Q90 but actually how much detail it goes it in to is still a bit of a mystery. No mention of anything R110 or R135. The >2019 seems to go back to 2016-2018 Q90, not 100% though.

If you click the "full preview" button below the add to cart button. It goes a bit further without giving you any real info. However I do start to get a bit concerned though when I find under "maintenance and repair" they have a listing for Clutch. I'd expect Haynes to be better than that.

I guess they can update it on the fly but for £25 I'd want something like every other Haynes manual I have and love.

 

I do like physical haynes manuals though where you can just thumb through the pages and bring it out to the car with you while your working on rather than scrolling through pages on the laptop and zooming in on the screen. Much better with a physical proper book. - so thats a bit rubbish if it is only online.

 

You are better to buy the full Renault workshop manual online.
I purchased it when I rebuilt the suspension on my Q210 Zoe because I needed all of the torque specifications.

It is near on 3000 pages long and covers every aspect of dismantling / rebuilding everything and how to safely remove the hv interlock with all of the process orders to do it.

It’s totally comprehensive and only cost me about £25.

 

@Drewby80 , where did you purchase the on line manual from ?

 

I had to trawl my emails to find the receipt, it came from Easymanuals.co.uk.

I was wrong on the price as well, it was only £14.99!

Bargain! 😎

 

I have the same emanual I referred to originally, it just looks like the have just updated the front cover, it is exactly the same 2728 pages long.
Loads of duplication and has loads of stuff missing that is just referenced as a link but even searching for it in the pdf doesn't show anything up. Very random order for things that don't lead from one item to another. I think it was down to a kid to go through the Renault tool and just screen grab every page for the Zoe but didn't realise that they had to follow the links too.

If you can tell me where it mentions how to get the anti roll bar out I will happily stand corrected but it isn't quite as good as I was hoping.
126MB of information but not quite how you want it.
Still better than the Haynes Autofix though after reading comments on different forums.

 

I have the same emanual I referred to originally, it just looks like the have just updated the front cover, it is exactly the same 2728 pages long.
Loads of duplication and has loads of stuff missing that is just referenced as a link but even searching for it in the pdf doesn't show anything up. Very random order for things that don't lead from one item to another. I think it was down to a kid to go through the Renault tool and just screen grab every page for the Zoe but didn't realise that they had to follow the links too.

If you can tell me where it mentions how to get the anti roll bar out I will happily stand corrected but it isn't quite as good as I was hoping.
126MB of information but not quite how you want it.
Still better than the Haynes Autofix though after reading comments on different forums.

What info do you need about the anti roll bar?

it shows the torque values for the D bushes and the drop links on either end.

That’s about all of the tech spec needed as those are it’s only fixing points.

It takes a good 10 minutes to find what your looking for but my copy seems pretty complete.

 

Yes, I can see the torque setting on page 784 but would like to know the correct procedure for removing the anti-roll bar as I don't want to just keep pulling bits if not needed. Something the dealers would also want to know.

If you scroll down a little bit from your last image it list the anti-roll bar and then says (see Front anti-roll bar Removal - Refitting) and appears to be a hyperlink in the software that this is taken from. That section is missing in my book, same with a fair few of the sections about removal-refitting components.

Still significantly better than nothing but plenty of bits missing, of course they will probably be bits you are interested in.

 

I’ve had the whole front suspension in bits on my Zoe, the procedure to remove the anti roll bar bushings is as follows:

There is an under tray at the front that covers the anti roll bar bushings which needs to be removed, the Torx screws that hold this on are likely to be VERY rusty, if you are going to remove it I would purchase replacements from Renault first so you can button it all back up properly.

I had to remove studs from the plastic fittings because the heads sheared straight off several of them when I removed an under tray.

These are available as a kit from Renault but they are also eye-wateringly expensive.

I paid the dealer tax because it was a lot less grief than trying to source them elsewhere, not to mention the huge savings made by undertaking such work more than offset cost items like that.

Lifting both front wheels off the ground gets rid of all the tension in the anti roll bar, there is a bolt either end of the anti roll bar that connects it to the drop links.

(I personally would replace the drop links while your at it because they are like £18 for the pair and they are notorious for failing in the Zoe)

The anti roll bar bushings are retained by a metal bracket that hooks into the bottom of the sub frame on one end then has a single bolt on the other as I recall, once you have removed these 2 you should be able to replace the bushings in situ.

That’s about all there is to it, just out of interest why do you need to remove your anti roll bar?

It sits on top of the sub frame, seems a lot of work for little gain.

 

Getting a bit off topic here. I've no pressing need to remove the anti-roll bar, just wanted better access to the bushes so I could grease them up properly. I've removed one of the brackets before but I didn't want to lever the bushes off in case I couldn't get them back on again in a restricted place. I am convinced that the bushes dry out and seize on to the roll bar which is why people think the drop links are rubbish. Changing the length of the anti-roll bar by such a great amount is going to have a dire consequence on the next weakest point in the chain which is the drop links.

Shame the emanual doesn't have all off the info though. Maybe it will be updated at some point, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

That makes sense, I’m wondering if you undo it at both ends from the drop links the remove the metal brackets from the sub frame whether it would give you enough play to slide it towards the wheel arch to get better access to the bushing.

They are pretty close to the edge of the sub frame:

I would be tempted to replace them with poly bushings at this point if you have such reservations about the OEM ones.

The anti roll bar bushings are the only but I haven’t replaced in the front end of my Zoe but they are on the to do list because I still get a chattering knock when driving over undulating roads that have a poor surface.

I haven’t had the inner wheel arches off my Zoe but I recon that should give a really clear line of sight and good access to the bushes, have you ever had one of yours off?

I wonder if mine are worn or just stuck, do you have any insight?

 

@Zarni if the anti-roll bar was seized in the bushes then the front suspension would effectively be locked in position. What may be happening is a bit of stick-slip which could cause noise or vibration. This could cause higher loads in the ARB drop links.

 

It would also screw the bushings up massively in a pretty short space of time causing huge wear and them to loosen and release the anti roll bar.

At this point you would have a knocking sound that got progressively worse.

Personally I’d just replace each the bushings.

 

Bit of a random find and I have no idea when this came out, but was looking for something else and stumbled upon a link to the Haynes website which is showing manuals for the old and new Zoe. My first though was one of surprise as I didn't think Haynes were making any more manuals.

Anyway, the link Haynes Autofix

I have the emanual for the 2013 Zoe and it isn't really complete and is frustrating to use so would be happy to find a better manual.
Just curious if anyone has bought this?

Rubbish. For a UK Ford Transit aside from a comprehensive service schedule, the information was generic for petrol! engines. Despite a promising sales pitch absolutely nothing on replacing glow plugs/injectors or 'Ford' sticky gear solutions.