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Battery warranty?

8.6K views 15 replies 11 participants last post by  Positron  
#1 ·
Hi everyone, I'm new here, got an e-Niro on order, supposedly first wave.

Does anyone know the details of the battery warranty?

e.g. on my current car (Leaf 30kwh) the warranty is for 66% capacity after 8 years or 100,000 miles.

Cheers
 
#3 ·
Hmmm, from this review it sounds like loss of battery capacity might not be covered by the warranty:

Driving Electric e-Niro review

The Kia’s battery and electric motor are both covered by the company’s impressive seven-year/100,000-mile warranty. It’s a shame that Kia doesn’t cover loss of battery capacity in that time, as Nissan and Renault do with the Leaf and ZOE.
 
#4 ·
It is for the Soul EV so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be for the e-Niro.

Soul EV Lithium-Ion Polymer Battery
The Lithium-Ion Polymer Battery warranty covers a minimum capacity for a period is 84 months or 100,000 miles from the date of first registration, whichever comes first. This warranty covers repairs needed to return the battery capacity to at least 70% of the original battery capacity. Where possible, the original EV battery components will be repaired and will be returned to the vehicle. If unrepairable, the EV Battery will be replaced with either a new or remanufactured Lithium-Ion Polymer Battery.

See

Terms and Exclusions: Kia 7 Year Warranty | Kia Motors UK
 
#7 ·
Tesla give specific advice to only charge to 80% unless making a long trip and needing the 100%. Does anyone know if Kia has given similar advice for the e-Niro or for the Soul EV? I plan to do similar anyway given the big buffer such a large battery allows - but any official guidance would be welcome.
 
#9 ·
My understanding is that Tesla recommend that because the battery is charged to 100% when fully charged where as most cars leave a buffer at the top and bottom. On leafspy and obdeleven for the Golf it shows the battery charged to about 96%.
Someone else may be along to correct that, but that is my understanding.

I still intend to set the charge level to 80% (which will probably be an actual 75%) but I'll see what works for me day to day and adjust accordingly. It's equally as relevant to not discharge too low either so I'm intending to only get down to 25% with my day to day driving.
Using 50% of the battery will be like driving the e-Golf, he that has plenty of miles most of the time.
 
#8 ·
Haven't heard anything although I guess its good practice.
In Bjorn's review he did say the BMS behaved as if it was a 70kw battery so maybe they have built in a buffer rater than using something like trip mode in the Tesla.

On a vaguely related note I take it with Kia we buy the car & we own the battery?
Haven't seen leasing mentioned anywhere, but every time I mention I've bought an EV to someone they start talking about battery leasing for some reason I thought that was only Renault?
 
#13 ·
Haven't heard anything although I guess its good practice.
In Bjorn's review he did say the BMS behaved as if it was a 70kw battery so maybe they have built in a buffer rater than using something like trip mode in the Tesla.

On a vaguely related note I take it with Kia we buy the car & we own the battery?
Haven't seen leasing mentioned anywhere, but every time I mention I've bought an EV to someone they start talking about battery leasing for some reason I thought that was only Renault?
The semi-translated user manual includes this text:

"• AC Charging:
We recommend using the AC charger when you normally charge the car. You can use a standard charger at a public station, and the charging cable (if any) contained in the boot of your car. (See "charging AC", page 1-21.)

DC Charging:
You can fast-charge of public charging stations. Read each company manual that comes with each dc strömsladdartyp.

Battery performance and durability may be reduced if the DC charging all-time used.

To extend the battery life of the DC charge is used myck- et sparingly."

This suggests that emulating Bjørn's behaviour with frequent use of rapid charging is not recommended -- another semi-warning, as made famous by VW's vagueness over the eGolf...

Incidentally it also says this:

"Trickle charging:
When you can not run into a general ladddstation due to low battery, you can charge the car through the portab- la 220V charger with ICCB (ingåen- the control box for cable) that can be purchased as an option. Trickle-charging recommended one- DAST in an emergency, as electricity can cause problems with the electric bill and electrical stresses."

This suggests that the car does not come with a granny-charging unit as standard..!