I hope it is not Korea only. It is such an essential feature.

 

I have sent an email to the VIP team to try to confirm if this is a Korea only option or if it will be on the one's for the UK. If it is Korea only I have asked that they try to convince Hyundai to provide it on the P45 before they start to build them - Hopefully it will be on the car as I think this is a great idea (similar to the TeslaCam/Sentry Mode) - Looks like it records front and rear cameras as well.

 

I don't know why it hasn't been made mandatory on new cars yet to have this feature.

Failing that, I do like the Skoda concept of just sticking a USB port right up next to the rear view mirror in the housing for the mirror, so you can plug in any cam without the faffing getting it wired in.

 

I noticed what looks like a USB port in the glove box (top LH side). It was there in the preproduction cars so hoping this for dashcam.

 

UPDATE FROM HYUNDAI UK

Received this update from the VIP team yesterday about the Built in Dash Cam - I did argue that the P45 being fully loaded as Hyundai say, is not quite fully loaded as it will not have all the features that it already has in Korea, so it looks like they have settled on different software for each region, and will not change it. It looks highly unlikely that we in the UK will get this....


Hi Phil

Thank you for getting in touch. Project 45 already offers a range of unique features over and above the standard IONIQ 5 model and unfortunately we are unable to change the specification for this model. We will of course continue to explore the possibility of new features for future models.

Kindest regards

Laura

So to me it looks like KOREA will get the better software options on their standard cars,.



I have also noticed on the US launch, the rear lights are a larger rectangle and the indicators are the full rectangle instead of being 1 pixel high on european spec.

US Full size rear Lights

Europe Smaller Rear Lights

US Rear Indicators

Europe Indicators

 

I have also noticed on the US launch, the rear lights are a larger rectangle and the indicators are the full rectangle instead of being 1 pixel high on european spec.

If you look the European spec has one row below the brake lights which can show the indicator flashing.
I think this is because of the difference in the laws around rear lights... in europe we need to separate the brake and the indicator... US they dont differenciate they just flash the same light!

 

If the P45 spec cannot be changed then Hyundai UK must know what that spec is, so have I missed the details somewhere or is the spec still secret?
Call me a cynic but could it be that to avoid changing the price, the ‘fully loaded spec’ has (and maybe continues to be) been influenced by adverse currency exchange rate changes, rising inflation and the shortage of ‘chips’ especially now that delivery has been put back.

 

To me, this looks like it would only be a software change as all the cameras are in place and I have seen photos of a usb port in the glove box/drawer that could be the place for usb storage to be located. All conjecture I know, seems like a missed opportunity to provide something that would be extremely practical/useful for the driver of this vehicle......

 

Dashcam is not just software. I think there is an additional battery fitted and presumably an SD card slot somewhere (glove box?).

 

Like I said it's all just conjecture, and the pictures I have seen show a usb port for possible storage in the glovebox - why do you think there would be another battery fitted on top of the 12v battery and the main traction battery, surely like the V2L function the power would come from the traction battery ?. Tesla do not have another battery fitted for their sentry mode on the car, it's all powered by the main traction battery.

 

Thanks for that, I stand corrected on the supplemental Battery - Would not have thought that that would be necessary. Doesn't make much difference as it's not going to be on the so called fully loaded "P45" anyway

 

Even Hyundai UK aren't quite sure on the built-in options. So even if it isn't included to start with it may appear later. The first six months worth of e-Konas came with the speed limit recognition camera enabled (ILSW). The following year it wasn't included and towards the latter part of that year it became included again.

 

This seems to be a purchase option on the Korean cars. It includes a supplementary battery and presumably a memory card slot, possibly in the glove box drawer from some pictures. I tried to get the option added to the UK P45's but no joy.

 

Hi George56,

If you look at post 6 on this thread I had already asked the VIP team about this and the answer was no changes to the P45 (see quote Below) - may be an option on future models

Hi Phil

Thank you for getting in touch. Project 45 already offers a range of unique features over and above the standard IONIQ 5 model and unfortunately we are unable to change the specification for this model. We will of course continue to explore the possibility of new features for future models.

Kindest regards

Laura

I think that this is a mistake and should be added to cars especially with 360 cameras - really disappointed with Hyundai about this especially as this is available as an option in Korea....

 

So a bit, "Have what your given and be thankful" an attitude like that would put me off and I'd be looking at another manufacturer. I wonder whatever happened to customer service.

 

err no... just like the id.3/id.4 first edition. the P45 is a default configuration with little to no options. I wanted the HUD which was on the EUropean 1st edition id.4, but not the UK one, but I ordered before specs were finalised. I cant really complain I want it because its there on the European verison, it is just the spec it is for the UK at the price they set.

The reason for this is because that can produce a high volume quickly and so at a competitive price.
As Jimbo said...P45 is more than the Ultimate for lower price.

You cant have everything, either by the non P45 version and spec it how you want or by the P45 and have its spec, you cant have the price advantage of the P45 and expect to customise it.

It like the kid going to mcdonald in the UK having just seen Korean TV. they want to by the happy meal with a Bulgogi Burger (Korean burger) and the toys they get in korean happy meal, not a cheese burger and the toys in the english happy meal. Just because this burger is made in Korea, doesnt mean you can have it in england.

 

The P45 was always a locked down spec. I can't believe the comment about being short changed... how ridiculous.

P45 gets more options than a fully loaded Ultimate for less money. This is the exact opposite of being short changed.

FWIW, there is no "P45" spec. outside of of Europe, and AFAIK will be the only variant outside of Korea with the electric rear seats.

Hyundai should have made the dashcam a standard feature in all markets where it is legal. They didn't and that just means we have to fit our own. It's not like the option is cheap in Korea anyway.

 

Firstly let me say how appreciative I am that Hyundai took the time to answer my letter with a personal reply.

Yes the P45 specification was "locked" at launch in February 2021 and is a vey good specification that is superior to the UK Ultimate edition. However if you don't ask you don't get and I saw no harm in asking for the Dashcam feature as the RHD UK cars were still not in production at the start of June. Why should I need to start removing trim and fitting a Dashcam in a brand new car when the option is available in Korea and the fitting is not illegal in the UK. (I understand it is illegal in Germany). I would have been happy to have paid extra for the option.

My reference to "short change" concerns the specifications of the standard cars being offered in the UK. to get a car similar to the model used to advertise the European launch in February you need to buy the Ultimate edition plus the technical and eco packs (V to L included in this specification). These are the only options available. Why should a UK customer not at least have the opportunity to specify, for example, the panoramic roof or indeed the dashcam option?

The current advertising trend in the media seems to be to show a highly specified vehicle and then add the disclaimer in small print that "the car shown may not be UK specification" I presume this gets around advertising standards regulations.

Currently in the UK we do not know what accessories are going to be available as the Hyundai accessories shop website has been down for "maintenance" for a long time now. I know some on this forum are awaiting details of tow hitch availability. I would like to know what boot liner options there are. There is a Norwegian Hyundai site showing what is be available all up and running with part numbers for LHD cars. Come on UK get your act together!

 

As I have said before, I was disappointed that the UK will not get this (at the moment, maybe on future vehicles) and I was surprised that an additional battery was required (would have thought that it would use power from the traction battery), it was more for convenience really as the cameras are already on the car, I will just fit my dash cams as I have done on all my other cars.

I do wish though that car manufacturers would add a USB Socket next to the rear view mirror to make getting power to dash cams easier (I believe Skoda do this) a really useful simple addition.

Apart from tesla, Citroen are one of the only manufacturers to add a dash cam (BMW add accident recorders in some of their cars, not really dash cams)

In the UK, the Citroen C3 and C5 Aircross SUV has a dash cam option called ConnectedCAM Citroën. This is a dash cam that is built into the rear view mirror and is marketed to those who want to either record their journeys, but also to improve driver safety. It has wireless capabilities allowing access to the footage with a smartphone and allows you to share your footage to social media.

Interestingly, I see it marketed as more of a “share your moments” device than anything. In order to record anything, you have to long press the button on the mirror for it to record for a minute. You can then post it to social media. If an impact is recorded, it saves 30 seconds before the accident and 1 minute after.

The system features a 120 degree wide angle, a GPS, and internal memory of 128GB. It records in 1080p.

Besides the UK, Australia Citroen recently decided to the drop this option going forward as they found it wasn’t selling as well.

 

I do wish though that car manufacturers would add a USB Socket next to the rear view mirror to make getting power to dash cams easier

If your Ioniq 5 has the auto dimming rear view mirror, you can buy an adapter to get USB power from it. This is what I did. The power goes off when you turn the car off, so no good if you want parking mode. Dash Cam Power Adapter (10-pin Kia/Hyundai)

 

I own an imported ioniq 5 from Korea. The built-in cam was ordered with this car. I made a video about it, here you go..