The only other thing I think changed around that time is the ultra sonic sensors were removed. I have one which still had them but you get the option to use the cameras (Teslavision)

John

 

If the car is late 2023 you can still have sensors or not as @Scubakid had pointed out above. Everything else you listed it will be in the car 👍
The roof is one piece so no leaking. I had mine M3P for almost 2 years and lived outside all the time, never had a single issue

 

The roof is one piece so no licking.

nice typo.
Which cars can we recommend for roof licking?

 

HW4 is in from TM3 Highlands IIRC so Nov 2022 will have HW3 onboard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot_hardware

Regarding range (and taking few % for battery degradation in Nov 2022 car) it should show some 300 miles when 100%

 

Indicator stalk is coming back to Model 3 (it will be the same as it is in Model Y) as well as slightly bigger battery and front bumper camera so maybe worth a wait if you going for new one.

 

Thanks all. Do I have to look after the battery in the same way as my Model S? I only lost ~8% range over the 9 years/106k miles, and would charge to 90% most times, with most charging done at home. I'd charge to 100% maybe once a quarter or so.

 

So sorry to hear your loss of your much loved car.

Around early 2022, I think M3 also gain matrix headlights. I'm not sure if the change went together with Ryzen CPU upgrade. Worth checking to ensure you are not missing out on the FW-unlocked functionality.

There's a very thorough guide:

Tesla Model 3 Ultimate Buyers Guide

Tesla Model 3 Ultimate Buyers Guide covering everything you need to know.

ev-inventory.com

 

My 21 plate model 3 has matrix headlights but isn't Ryzen.

 

I went from a MS 90D to a MS P90D to a 2020 M3 LRAWD then a 2022 MY LRAWD

One of the biggest things you’ll notice is the increased range and speed of rapid charging. Adding 150 miles of range is now a doddle compared to your MS which I imagine took an hour or so.

The M3 will feel (and be) much lighter and nimble, almost go cart like and while I appreciate some might like it, the M3 has a very different drivers feel to the MS, I’d say less special and less refined. On the flip side, when I last got in an older MS it felt quite dated with a big steering wheel and a laggy screen.

2022 is when lots was changing, you will have heat pump and indicator stalks, should have Ryzen, might have parking sensor but won’t be HW4, not that it’s a deal breaker for most, it only really matters if you live somewhere FSD supervised is available. Buying one just within Tesla warranty is worth doing, getting it inspected by an independent and then getting Tesla to address. There may be a fair amount of emerging issues, nothing catastrophic but it would be good to get them sorted.

 

I went from a MS 90D to a MS P90D to a 2020 M3 LRAWD then a 2022 MY LRAWD

One of the biggest things you’ll notice is the increased range and speed of rapid charging. Adding 150 miles of range is now a doddle compared to your MS which I imagine took an hour or so.

The M3 will feel (and be) much lighter and nimble, almost go cart like and while I appreciate some might like it, the M3 has a very different drivers feel to the MS, I’d say less special and less refined. On the flip side, when I last got in an older MS it felt quite dated with a big steering wheel and a laggy screen.

2022 is when lots was changing, you will have heat pump and indicator stalks, should have Ryzen, might have parking sensor but won’t be HW4, not that it’s a deal breaker for most, it only really matters if you live somewhere FSD supervised is available. Buying one just within Tesla warranty is worth doing, getting it inspected by an independent and then getting Tesla to address. There may be a fair amount of emerging issues, nothing catastrophic but it would be good to get them sorted.

Thanks, really appreciate the info. Coming from a MS 75 should be quite a big jump. I have driven a MY and thought it wasn't too bad, but felt much lighter steering that my MS. I had MCU2 in my MS and CCS charging, too. I could still hit 130kW peak when charging in summer, which is pretty impressive for such an old car! I got a picture of the additional info screen in the car...so this is a HW3 car, right?

 

The MCU2 upgrade is essential in the S to make it ok to use. It's not the fastest in the world but it is still pretty functional.

Biggest advantage of the S is it's aluminium and not steel so it won't rot to bits. Some of the 3s already have weird rot in places like the boot lid. They'd definitely want some good rust treatment if they were going to be kept a long time.

 

Sorry for the clickbait title; but...

My beautiful 2016 Model S 75 (utterly spotless, and in perfect condition) was ruined in a flood at a Manchester Airport car park recently. To say I am gutted is an understatement. It was a beautiful, reliable car with free supercharging etc. Drove it from new, back when Tesla would do a handover ceremony with a grand reveal, free merchandise and the works. So yeah, I'm sad about it.

So I'm going to have to replace it, with a used vehicle, and I think really the only option I'm keen on is a Model 3. Not an SUV fan.

It has been a long time since I bought a car and things have clearly moved on a great deal since 2016. I would really appreciate some help & advice! I have my eyes on a late 2022 long range AWD (it says 2023 but was registered in Nov 2022).

Am I right in saying it has (info on the advert is sparse, no pics of the car info screen):

• Heat Pump
• AMD Ryzen
• NMC battery
• HW4 ??
• Indicator & gear stalks (IIRC they were discontinued for 2024+ cars?) ?

Is there anything else I should be aware of? Are the pano roofs watertight? I don't have a garage so it'll be outside. What kind of range are people getting (not massively important, given I was used to 190 from my MS!).

Thanks in advance - heartbroken though I am at the loss of my Model S, I know it was the gateway that allowed Tesla to build Model 3 and bring EVs to the mass market, so I suppose I can say I did my bit (all £65,000 of it) to accelerate the transition....so yeah.

Cheers
Ed

A bit off topic but this is the second time I have heard about flooding at a Manchester Airport car park Out of interest, which one was it? I recently parked at the Ringway car park and was appalled at the state of the parking surface. It was near impossible to pull a wheeled suitcase across the surface so had to carry it.

 

Jet Parks 3. Apparently the staff car park was underwater, too. I am also told that this isn't the first time it has flooded. There were no warning signs, at all. Had I have parked in any other part of the car park, or indeed any other airport car park, there'd have been no problems. I think they know they've got a problem hence the total radio silence so far. Yes JPR has an awful surface - cheap land, spend no money on the surface and make as much £ as you can...and to hell with customers cars.

 

Yes, that is HW3 car, with Ryzen CPU and 18v LV battery (instead of lead acid).

 

Out of curiosity, any reason you decided on another Tesla to replace your MS? Since 2016 there are now a LOT of options out there, many with better ride quality, sound dampening, better quality control, etc.

Seems you have a great opportunity on your hands to try some new brands/models out there to see if a Tesla really is the best option for you.

Food for thought anyway.

 

Very good point. I won't be buying another Tesla, for all the reasons you state and more besides.

 

Matt who has a YouTube channel Go Green Autos had a Model S which was damaged by a Deer and written off.
He purchased a new Model Y and had the free supercharging swapped to his new car.
Have you asked Tesla if it's possible for you to do the same ?
No harm in asking.

 

Sorry for the clickbait title; but...

My beautiful 2016 Model S 75 (utterly spotless, and in perfect condition) was ruined in a flood at a Manchester Airport car park recently. To say I am gutted is an understatement. It was a beautiful, reliable car with free supercharging etc. Drove it from new, back when Tesla would do a handover ceremony with a grand reveal, free merchandise and the works. So yeah, I'm sad about it.

So I'm going to have to replace it, with a used vehicle, and I think really the only option I'm keen on is a Model 3. Not an SUV fan.

It has been a long time since I bought a car and things have clearly moved on a great deal since 2016. I would really appreciate some help & advice! I have my eyes on a late 2022 long range AWD (it says 2023 but was registered in Nov 2022).

Am I right in saying it has (info on the advert is sparse, no pics of the car info screen):

• Heat Pump
• AMD Ryzen
• NMC battery
• HW4 ??
• Indicator & gear stalks (IIRC they were discontinued for 2024+ cars?) ?

Is there anything else I should be aware of? Are the pano roofs watertight? I don't have a garage so it'll be outside. What kind of range are people getting (not massively important, given I was used to 190 from my MS!).

Thanks in advance - heartbroken though I am at the loss of my Model S, I know it was the gateway that allowed Tesla to build Model 3 and bring EVs to the mass market, so I suppose I can say I did my bit (all £65,000 of it) to accelerate the transition....so yeah.

Cheers
Ed

Sorry for the clickbait title; but...

My beautiful 2016 Model S 75 (utterly spotless, and in perfect condition) was ruined in a flood at a Manchester Airport car park recently. To say I am gutted is an understatement. It was a beautiful, reliable car with free supercharging etc. Drove it from new, back when Tesla would do a handover ceremony with a grand reveal, free merchandise and the works. So yeah, I'm sad about it.

So I'm going to have to replace it, with a used vehicle, and I think really the only option I'm keen on is a Model 3. Not an SUV fan.

It has been a long time since I bought a car and things have clearly moved on a great deal since 2016. I would really appreciate some help & advice! I have my eyes on a late 2022 long range AWD (it says 2023 but was registered in Nov 2022).

Am I right in saying it has (info on the advert is sparse, no pics of the car info screen):

• Heat Pump
• AMD Ryzen
• NMC battery
• HW4 ??
• Indicator & gear stalks (IIRC they were discontinued for 2024+ cars?) ?

Is there anything else I should be aware of? Are the pano roofs watertight? I don't have a garage so it'll be outside. What kind of range are people getting (not massively important, given I was used to 190 from my MS!).

Thanks in advance - heartbroken though I am at the loss of my Model S, I know it was the gateway that allowed Tesla to build Model 3 and bring EVs to the mass market, so I suppose I can say I did my bit (all £65,000 of it) to accelerate the transition....so yeah.

Cheers
Ed

This brings back memories of pre EV times. In 1990 I left my Rover 2.7 in a Manchester Airport Carpark whilst I was on my first visit to USA. The car had grey upholstery when I left it and beige coloured on my return. From memory it was parked in Britannia Country House Hotel carpark and apparently was completely submerged in flood water whilst we were away. It was written off by the insurance company and I used the compensation to buy a slightly newer Rover with fewer miles. These days I drive a 2006 Jaguar X Type which has almost 60,000 miles and my wife’s 2015 Zoe which has 20,000 miles. Although there is no way I can really justify it I am considering replacing the Jag with a 3 year old Tesla Y.

 

How about a Devil you sort of half know instead... assuming the air conditioning reduced is someone has range mode on and it's not some appalling fault obviously...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202508205599575?