Rhymes with Jeremy Hunt

 

Runt?

 

To be polite, I’ll go with selfish.

 

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As EV drivers we get frustrated when a charge point is ICED but how do we describe the behaviour of some EV drivers who block EV chargepoints with EVs???

Pick your own description from:

unthinking inexperienced inadvertent unintended
oblivious unwitting mindless thoughtless
ignorant inconsiderate selfish narrow-minded
hoggish spiteful malevolent etc. etc.

The Tesla in the photo has been parked in this EV charge bay for at least 2 hours NOT charging. (This one is in Gloucester Terrace, Bayswater, London). This is not the first example of this I have seen and, sadly, they are becoming more frequent.

These lamppost charges are in resident bays and have only recently been marked out and designated "Electric Vehs". The signpost on the lamppost does actually say "Electric Vehicle recharging point at all times". Note the word CHARGING, not parking!!

Prior to this recent demarcation, the bays were nearly always ICED since anyone with a resident permit could legitimately use them so it is a welcome improvement that they should now be marked out for EV CHARGING. As someone who lives in a flat in London (with no off street parking or home charging facility) these lamppost chargers are essential to my charging routine.

PLEASE, PLEASE be considerate and only use these bays for CHARGING and move your car if you have finished charging.

Rant over!

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In my past week road tripping and using public charging exclusively I have seen a fair few incidents not dissimilar. At Tesco Port Glasgow rapid 50kW pod point an EV parked on the charger as "just popping in" to do some shopping. At the Gridserve 300 kW chargers near Burton in Kendal the only available stall was occupied by an older none hybrid petrol car with the occupants stood around smoking and drinking coffee. When asked politely to move so I could charge the answer was "its a free country mate". At Ionity Polmadie near Glasgow and EV was parked on 100% and the charge had completed some time before according to a fellow traveller. Not so terrible as there are no restrictions however, two chargers weren't working so now that spot was down to 50% capacity. Thoughtless but within the rules.

Your example should get picked up by a traffic warden depending on the Borough as I know in Merton, for example, they have started to give tickets to none charging EVs on charging spots. We probably need pretty strict overstay charges on chargers going forward.

 

The Tesla in the photo

Sorry, what’s the question?

 

It's blocking a charging point while not using the charger, preventing others from charging

 

They’ll potentially get a ticket which may put them off

 

Next time I see a traffic warden in the area I'll show him the photos and ask his opinion as to whether he would issue a ticket or not.

The sign does clearly state "Electric vehicle recharging point at all times" but I'm not too hopeful that a warden would issue a ticket based on this alone.

 

If they’re source London I think the parking is partly paid for by the tariff they pay for charging

 

Source London do charge a premium which includes a parking charge but these lamppost chargers are Ubitricity and are in resident bays.

Either way, it is inconsiderate simply to park at a charging point and block it for an EV wanting to charge. Would a petrol car think of parking at petrol pump and leaving it for several hours?

 

Twatted.

 

Yes, a right cunning stunt

 

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As EV drivers we get frustrated when a charge point is ICED but how do we describe the behaviour of some EV drivers who block EV chargepoints with EVs???

Pick your own description from:

unthinking inexperienced inadvertent unintended
oblivious unwitting mindless thoughtless
ignorant inconsiderate selfish narrow-minded
hoggish spiteful malevolent etc. etc.

The Tesla in the photo has been parked in this EV charge bay for at least 2 hours NOT charging. (This one is in Gloucester Terrace, Bayswater, London). This is not the first example of this I have seen and, sadly, they are becoming more frequent.

These lamppost charges are in resident bays and have only recently been marked out and designated "Electric Vehs". The signpost on the lamppost does actually say "Electric Vehicle recharging point at all times". Note the word CHARGING, not parking!!

Prior to this recent demarcation, the bays were nearly always ICED since anyone with a resident permit could legitimately use them so it is a welcome improvement that they should now be marked out for EV CHARGING. As someone who lives in a flat in London (with no off street parking or home charging facility) these lamppost chargers are essential to my charging routine.

PLEASE, PLEASE be considerate and only use these bays for CHARGING and move your car if you have finished charging.

Rant over!

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If they are parked in the wrong place then they are due a ticket.

They are 'a parking offender' assuming they fall outside the definition of 'electric vehicle recharging'.

What is that definition? Are they allowed a grace period? Did they just there and then remove their lead, and were putting it back in their flat to then drive off?

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Are you a resident there?

This isn't going to affect most people here, but if that's 'your' spot then it is even more critical for you to have it available.

 

Selfish, inconsiderate and probably an ex-BMW driver.

 

I’m not condoning the behaviour of the Tesla driver and I fully understand the frustration of the OP but there really is no need for posts on this subject to degenerate into a name calling contest. Once it’s been pointed out that it’s a thoughtless action let it go.

 

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Clearly the large painted sign on the road surface had sodall thought put into it.
You refer to a sign which is where and how prominent?
Not wishing to seem unfair but someone driving something like that isn't going to bother looking for tiny writing or worry about fines anyway but what is seen is a space which says "Electric Vehs" so driving one he/she/it parked there and wandered off thinking they did well to park straight and within inches of the kerb although the car might have done that for them.

The issue is therefore signage not being well enough thought out.
If they painted "EV charging" with a picture of a tow truck and the word "or" above that then it might be a bit clearer.
Perhaps it was made clear on a sign I've not seen or is so small that having been snow blinded by the whiteness of the car just went unseen.

Should probably add that many of the signs on lamp posts are at the wrong height to read if you drive something lower than shoulder height.

Signs on lamp posts are seldom read by most people, just to clarify the point I'm making.

My vote is tow the halfwit.

Gaz

 

There’s me thinking
‘As someone who lives in a flat in London (with no off street parking or home charging facility) these lamppost chargers are essential to my charging routine.’
Made him an interested party.

 

I've deleted my previous post because, if as you say, that is one of @teepee's 'charge points' then for sure they have even more right to be outraged than in general cases, even though it is not a matter for non-London residents.

 

I'm pretty sure the sign on the post says "Resident permit holders only". Maybe the occupier is a resident permit holder?
If they are not a permit holder then all the nasties and semi nasties above may legitimately apply.
Just musing....

 

Consider they pulled in to the bay
Spent quite a while phaffing about, on the phone to the provider, then gave up getting the thing to work + put cable back in boot.

Decision point -- move away from the bay and someone else spend similar frustrations ?

- The one thing we don't know, is whether there was a useful note left by them on their dashboard saying the charge point was bust
(or, whether they had put a comment in somewhere like Plugshare, zap map etc )

per above , just musing.......

 

Consider they pulled in to the bay
Spent quite a while phaffing about, on the phone to the provider, then gave up getting the thing to work + put cable back in boot.

Decision point -- move away from the bay and someone else spend similar frustrations ?

I always move on, maybe it'll work for someone else.

 

Sometimes it is poor planning by the council that means the chargers are iced. Looking for a charger near Portobello beach and found 5 or 6 dual port chargers on the pavement on a side road. All the marked parking bays were full and only one was an EV which was not pugged in. The street looks to be all flats about 100 years old so no parking spaces except the street and never enough. There is a council owned sports centre with a large carpark a few hundred yards away. Forcing people to park away from there home to allow people to charge outside there home when there is not enough local EVs to use them, its just not going to happen outside of the traffic warden's "Blue meanies" patrol times.

 

The problem is that if you make too many spaces 'EV charging only' then ICE cars have no where to park.

It cannot yet be more than 1 in 50, if parity is to be kept according to the ratio of cars in the national fleet.

Basically, all parking spaces should have access to a charge port, then there is no 'blocking a charger' any more.

 

Tesla drivers , say no more

 

Nudge nudge, wink wink.

Gaz

 

Perhaps cluelessness. Parking the car in a multistorey yesterday my wife asked why I wasn't using the EV spaces. "Because we don't need to charge".
Her response was "So what?". Just doesn't seem to understand those spaces are so you can charge your car, not for parking in just because you happen to be on an EV.

 

She doesn't drive a white Tesla by any chance?

 

The sign on the lamppost clearly says both ‘residents parking only’ and ‘charging only’

this is massively common across the uk not just in London. You park in a residential street you should check for lamppost signs just in case or you very much risk getting a ticket

 

The sign on the lamppost clearly says both ‘residents parking only’ and ‘charging only’

These signs are often very unclear, and in fact probably unlawful. AFAIU signs are only supposed to list exclusory terms. Where they list permissions it gets very confusing when more than one is put on the sign.

It may not be enforceable if a car is a resident's car. What exclusion are they failing to observe?

I take that to mean you have to be both a resident AND charging, but I'd press you to showing that as a matter of clear law.

As a simple example, what does the sign " 'P' : 2hrs Mon - Fri 8AM to 6PM " mean for weekend parking? Does it mean it is allowed, or not allowed?

 

Another confusing one is Wigtown. It has a car park with 16 chargers only about 30 spaces in the whole carpark. It is just a small village, so seeing all the chargers was a nice surprise. There is 1 50kw charger and loads of 22k and 7k. The 50kw charger is also the single disabled parking bay in the car park.

 

So....do we infer that in order to use the 50kW charger you have to have a blue badge?

 

One for the money and the free rides
It's two for the lie that you denied
All rise, all rise (oh, all rise)
Three for the calls you've been making
It's four all the times you've been faking (oh)
All rise, I'm gonna tell it to your face
All rise, I rest my case (uh-huh)

Should say Don't Rise.
Or in other words @RobinB you hace been torled.

Don't feed the trolls.

Gaz

 

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As EV drivers we get frustrated when a charge point is ICED but how do we describe the behaviour of some EV drivers who block EV chargepoints with EVs???

Pick your own description from:

unthinking inexperienced inadvertent unintended
oblivious unwitting mindless thoughtless
ignorant inconsiderate selfish narrow-minded
hoggish spiteful malevolent etc. etc.

The Tesla in the photo has been parked in this EV charge bay for at least 2 hours NOT charging. (This one is in Gloucester Terrace, Bayswater, London). This is not the first example of this I have seen and, sadly, they are becoming more frequent.

These lamppost charges are in resident bays and have only recently been marked out and designated "Electric Vehs". The signpost on the lamppost does actually say "Electric Vehicle recharging point at all times". Note the word CHARGING, not parking!!

I'm guessing he read the paint on the road, not the sign in the post ?

 

Why is it that a large percentage of cars blocking EV charging stations are EVs?

They've blocked off the only rapid and CHAdeMO charger.

Surely they appreciate the issues of turning up to a charging station and you can't charge?