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Thanks. I guess that clearly indicates the UK model 1st Plus will be about £39999 before grant.

I want the features of the Max though!

 

If this is true, I may cancel my second iD3 pre-order which was for my father. Even at £35k I was suggesting he look at the Tesla Model 3 SR+.
Lets see what the UK pricing actually comes out at.

 

From a UK point of view not getting a rear view camera on a car that costs more than 20k is pretty surprising.

 

Until late in 2020, the UK is only getting the PLUS 1st edition which has a rear camera.

Also, I think you will be surprised by how many £30K cars have a camera as a cost option. It is often bundled with other features to increase "value". Our BMW i3 didn't have one and IIRC it is a cost option on most VWs.

 

Thanks for this. Very useful. With the exception of the pano roof the plus has everything I want. Happy to live without the roof, but obviously the OTR price will be the final arbiter. If they end up being equal on price, I would take an ID3 ahead of a Model 3 because it will be a bettter fit for what we want from a car.

I wonder if VW UK will be offering a deal with their new wallbox.

 

I’m the same, I need a hatchback, the M3 boot design won’t cut it for me, and Model Y I expect will be more expensive again. There are compromises I will have to make for the ID3, no pano roof which would have been nice, and mainly no ability for a roof rack (if this information is correct). As long as the tow hitch is available that I saw in a review I can make it work.

 

Looking at various youtube videos it is clear that the PLUS version will not even get electric seats.

If no options are available to add, or if those options needed take the price over £40k, then it could be the back up plan of a Model 3 lease!

 

AFAIK that is not a towing hitch! Only bike rack.

 

I didn’t know what else to call it? I guess you could also use it for external luggage rack/ski rack?

 

I posted about the Tow Hitch on a previous thread, this is only for bike racks or carriers up to a max of 75kg

This was shown on a norwegen youtube video, although everything that has been released so far has NOT mentioned the Tow Bar and is not listed anywhere yet as an option. If this is NOT an option I will probably cancel as the ID 3 is NOT built for any storage on the roof.

The other minor point that I noticed there are 4 usb C ports, 2 under the sliding centre console cover and 2 at the back, however I have not noticed any cigarette lighter socket (Accessory Socket) for the likes of connecting power to a dashcam or such like (I am assuming that at least 1 of the usb c ports provides power) but they are not in ideal places.

Does this car have a fuse box ? - I ask this as I believe that Tesla's don't have one

Oh and anybody thinking that they will buy a Tesla if the price for this car is too much - Check the Tesla website, prices have gone up to adjust for the weak Pound - Documentation, Towbar, White interior etc have all been rounded UP.

 

I posted about the Tow Hitch on a previous thread, this is only for bike racks or carriers up to a max of 75kg

This was shown on a norwegen youtube video, although everything that has been released so far has NOT mentioned the Tow Bar and is not listed anywhere yet as an option. If this is NOT an option I will probably cancel as the ID 3 is NOT built for any storage on the roof.

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The other minor point that I noticed there are 4 usb C ports, 2 under the sliding centre console cover and 2 at the back, however I have not noticed any cigarette lighter socket (Accessory Socket) for the likes of connecting power to a dashcam or such like (I am assuming that at least 1 of the usb c ports provides power) but they are not in ideal places.

Does this car have a fuse box ? - I ask this as I believe that Tesla's don't have one

Oh and anybody thinking that they will buy a Tesla if the price for this car is too much - Check the Tesla website, prices have gone up to adjust for the weak Pound - Documentation, Towbar, White interior etc have all been rounded UP.

Crazy Bjorn has posted on You tube, 12 DC in the boot not sure it there are any others.
As for the external stowage, I’d be gutted, but without the ability to carry bikes it’s a non starter.?

 

Just seen this posted on a Facebook group about the Cycle carrier

 

You can just make out the weight restrictions in this photo.

 

Oh no, we take three bikes!! (admittedly one is really light and the total would be less than 55kg I think).

 

Yep that just my concern. Two bikes would surely always be under 55kg, even with four bikes you should be comfortably under that.

 

So the car is pretty well screwed together as you would expect, the boot isn’t particularly big though, you should just about squeeze 4 mid size suitcases in..... but it would be only JUST.

HUD / AR, yes please.

Pity there are no leather seat options.

The ‘ergoactive’ massaging seats was nice.

The panoramic roof does have a retractable blind.

At least the bonnet bulge is pretty solid and not flimsy like it IMO looks.

The wheels are almost as wide as the tyres so if you park close to kerbs they are going to look rough pretty quickly:

All in all I like the car (well the Max anyway) but I will be cancelling my 1st Edition pre booking.

 

All in all I like the car (well the Max anyway) but I will be cancelling my 1st Edition pre booking.

Are you thinking of getting one of the post 1st edition models, or has something else caught your eye? Or just sticking with your current car for the time being?

 

The 19s have a lot more rim protection:

 

@E-Gizmo Do you have any other photos of the Mangan Grey car please?

 

None that show all of the car, but I did take these:

HUD inside dash

 

Thanks @E-Gizmo for the photos!

I was planning to visit Frankfurt today as well, but had to cancel.

 

Great photos @E-Gizmo
Can I trouble you with this question please? The tail gate/hatch back looks very fragile. What is the glossy black material? Is it steel or is it a plastic hatch?

 

It felt quite sturdy when I closed it so I would say it’s steel.

 

Specification / options of the non 1st Edition:

 

Not sure what was under the ‘heat pump’ as there was no further info.

 

I have wondered why car manufacturers have not cottoned onto the growing use of dashcams and either build in a dashcam option into the cluster behind the rear view mirror or at least as a usb power port to it so people can add their own dashcam without taking the car apart.
Yes Tesla have this option but talking about other manufacturers. Premium brands should be building in cameras by now and and the other companies should be supplying usb port.

 

I have wondered why car manufacturers have not cottoned onto the growing use of dashcams and either build in a dashcam option into the cluster behind the rear view mirror or at least as a usb power port to it so people can add their own dashcam without taking the car apart.
Yes Tesla have this option but talking about other manufacturers. Premium brands should be building in cameras by now and and the other companies should be supplying usb port.

Agreed. I've been asking for power socket in the courtesy light for ages.

 

Hmm, so I need to specify all the "plus" options to get the spec I'd want to get me out of my GTE. Could probably drop the styling+, but it's all down to the price VW. Hurry up and tell us already.

 

I wonder how far a configurator on their website is.

 

I'm looking for something with a longer range than our i3 to make those longer drives (we used to drive to Italy to see the in laws at least once a year, no we're back to flying). The children will be occasional passengers now (one of to Uni next week, the other probably in a year), decent boot space (hatchback would be my preference). Don't think this works on boot space and the LR may be nudging the M3 LR which will have more space and a better charging network (including Ionity access and others). We'll have to see but it will be a pity as I really fancied one of these.

 

I specced a reversing camera on a 2016 VW Up (ICE)

 

Did anyone who went to the IAA measure the gap under the false floor in the boot?

Just wondering (I doubt it though) if a 125/70/18” space saver would fit under there?

 

I just came across this press release buried on the VW website:

https://uploads.volkswagen-newsroom...4865c2f6bd0d4bfcfb7741a05b2d9264231d5b4a/The_ID_3_new_era_begins.pdf?1568049306

Nothing much we don't already know in there but I noticed the drag coefficient is quoted as 0.267, I was wondering how that compares to the competition?

 

In reading this press release I also noticed "Free charging" for a year on Page 7. Makes the Ionity £8 per shot free for 12 months. Not sure what other "charging stations linked to WeCharge" there are - maybe the Tesco-VW tie up?

 

I think both Ioniq and M3 are at 0.24... but you need to specify which coefficient exactly?