Could you not just save yourself the hassle and use Android Auto/CarPlay? seems a bit of a faff for no apparently good reason.

 

That, like so many others, is an unhelpful answer - doesn't help anyone to follow your suggestion. To do what you suggest is more full of faff than any other. If there is no address for a particular location, no system can find it. Yes the Bluelink address search seems to be loads better than the disgraceful infotainment satnav which is way further back than the 90s.
Shall I try asking infotainment to "navigate to a layby half way between Weymouth and Bridport"?

 

Or, I don't know, just enter the address directly into either the app or the infotainment system.

You can also use voice recognition: 'navigate to Hotel Castillo Bonavia in Pedrola'...

Inputting coordinates is just so 90s

 

If a good built-in satnav existed, why would anyone want to mess about with little mobile phones, needing wired USB connections. A phone stuck on the dash is NOT a Head-Up-Display! Does the Heath-Robinson set up pass directions to Hyundai's HUD?
Zap-Map is not yet working fully in Europe. ABRP (free) is sort-of OK but does not choose charging points by "quality" ie at least 5 stalls. It is not easy to find alternative charging points quickly. A holiday trip through barren Spainsh mountains does need a plan with back-up charging pints within range.
I do find Google Earth very useful for planning, much more so than Google maps. There is a difference between holiday trip planning and just getting directions to the next buisness address.

 

A simple "I like to use the HUD" would've sufficed rather than the biting my head off.

 

In my opinion, most OEM navigation systems are pretty poor. There are a few of exceptions to that, but it doesn't look like Hyundai will be in that club any time soon.
The biggest problem with phone-based systems is their lack of integration into the car systems, both for reading data, like SOC and for supplying data to auxiliary screens, like Driver Displays or HUDs. Most of these issues are being addressed but it will be quite some time before vehicles that even support advanced integration are widely available, and when they are you can be certain it will only be on expensive models.
I don't mind plugging the cable into my phone when I get in the car and then I pretty much exclusively use ABRP through car play. I have vehicle integration so I can plan routes, including charging stops and see real-time data about how many stalls are free at the charger while sill en-route, along with my current and projected SOC. It's super nice and pretty plug and play now it is all set up, but there were many hoops to get it set up.

Of course it doesn't help my opinion of the Hyundai navigation system now that us pre-facelift model owners have been denied live data services.

 

In my opinion, most OEM navigation systems are pretty poor. There are a few of exceptions to that, but it doesn't look like Hyundai will be in that club any time soon.
The biggest problem with phone-based systems is their lack of integration into the car systems, both for reading data, like SOC and for supplying data to auxiliary screens, like Driver Displays or HUDs. Most of these issues are being addressed but it will be quite some time before vehicles that even support advanced integration are widely available, and when they are you can be certain it will only be on expensive models.
I don't mind plugging the cable into my phone when I get in the car and then I pretty much exclusively use ABRP through car play. I have vehicle integration so I can plan routes, including charging stops and see real-time data about how many stalls are free at the charger while sill en-route, along with my current and projected SOC. It's super nice and pretty plug and play now it is all set up, but there were many hoops to get it set up.

Of course it doesn't help my opinion of the Hyundai navigation system now that us pre-facelift model owners have been denied live data services.

Thanks Infomike. My Kona was ordered in 2022 so I think it may be able to receive live data? But I probably have to buy a subscription? vehicle integration? With what, ABRP? I guess that if I plugged in a tablet running ABRP, it would not show directions on the HUD. Hyundai's Satnav would have been parked. I guess you pay an ABRP sub to get availability of charging points?

 

Those suggesting google or apple things, my phone locks after max 15mins due to sw my employer has on it.
So I can't use them for replacing sat nav, I don't plan to be stabbing my finger to unlock it every 15mins - I like to leave the phone well alone and out of reach when driving.

Additionally, if per OP you are abroad you're probably not going to have data on AND using a mapping tool.
It'll stuff you with roaming charges before you're out of 3rd gear [ pauses for the youngsters to get confused ]

I end up using the bluelink map on an iPad whilst at wifi and then stabbing at it and sending that to the car sat nav.
I'll do it a couple of times with the various places I want sent to the car, then in the car just go to previous destinations or saved or whatever and select from there.

 

Those suggesting google or apple things, my phone locks after max 15mins due to sw my employer has on it.
So I can't use them for replacing sat nav, I don't plan to be stabbing my finger to unlock it every 15mins - I like to leave the phone well alone and out of reach when driving.

I don't think you have to have the screen unlocked in order to use Android Auto.

 

infOmike thank you, super info!
Thank you for the link for OBD setting instructions.
I love having the HUD, so I was reluctant to spoil its full function. But actually, the Hyundai nav system is slow enough to make the indication on the HUD, or screen, a bit late - so perhaps I should just accept not having the HUD indication. It is interesting that I could still have Hyundai driving the HUD directions, while navigating with ABRP, but as you said it could be following a different route!
Annoyingly, my increasing age is just beginning to make remembering how to use multiple Apps a bit problematic - which might be a good reason to keep on trying.
So your phone has two simultaneous connections with the car, one by USB cable, and one by Bluetooth to the dongle. Seems surprising that it can work, but I suppose all the calculation is being done in the phone and it is only display instruction being sent to the infotainment screen.
I shall try to set it up. And I still have my trusty old TomTom if it all goes tits-up!
With Range Anxiety quite high for our first EV trip on the sparsely occupied Spanish mountain roads, it might have been nice to have Hyundai's warning of approaching charge stations, but if ABRP is reporting availability, perhaps it does not matter.

 

infOmike thank you, super info!
Thank you for the link for OBD setting instructions.
I love having the HUD, so I was reluctant to spoil its full function. But actually, the Hyundai nav system is slow enough to make the indication on the HUD, or screen, a bit late - so perhaps I should just accept not having the HUD indication. It is interesting that I could still have Hyundai driving the HUD directions, while navigating with ABRP, but as you said it could be following a different route!
Annoyingly, my increasing age is just beginning to make remembering how to use multiple Apps a bit problematic - which might be a good reason to keep on trying.
So your phone has two simultaneous connections with the car, one by USB cable, and one by Bluetooth to the dongle. Seems surprising that it can work, but I suppose all the calculation is being done in the phone and it is only display instruction being sent to the infotainment screen.
I shall try to set it up. And I still have my trusty old TomTom if it all goes tits-up!
With Range Anxiety quite high for our first EV trip on the sparsely occupied Spanish mountain roads, it might have been nice to have Hyundai's warning of approaching charge stations, but if ABRP is reporting availability, perhaps it does not matter.

I would recommend you do some longer trips in the UK to get used to the idea of road-tripping in an EV, and to get to know your car better. The range you have enjoyed in your usage so far will be negatively impacted by long distance motorway driving and you should get a feel for how the state of charge tails off at the lower end.

You don't need the ABRP stuff I have been going on about, it is just a nice to have and I freely admit it might be too complicated to get set up if you are not entirely comfortable with tinkering.

I also recommend reaching out to another member on this forum, @andyswarbs who has done thousands and thousands of miles of European road-tripping in his Kona, without any of the fancy Apps and toys I use!

 

infOmike, thank you.
I have linked the dongle to a tablet and have seen the car data arrive. I have also linked ABRP on the tablet to the car by USB, and got the message that I need Premium to show the route map etc. So I think the systems are ready.
I shall follow the suggestion of andyswarbs.
We have done one longer trip in our year of ownership. Just 225 miles to Nantwich in October plus 3 days running around. The consumption did increase a bit. 2 Charges at Stafford worked well.
I admit that I used my old TomTom, having done all the planning with pen and paper and the Internet - I was already disgusted with Hyundai's Nav and though I had tried ABRP, I had not then found it intuitively friendly - I have got a bit more used to it now, but still find it sometimes difficult to force my will on it.
I don't like arriving with low SoC which seems to be ABRP's intention. (I do understand some of the reasoning for the fastest possible trip.) If there is no charging near the hotel, that is not convenient; perhaps there is a way of demanding a particular SoC for arrival. Perhaps I should try asking ABRP to plan the whole trip, using waypoints for the hotels en-route. So far I have used separate plans for each hotel.

 

There is indeed a way to set the SoC for arrival at each charger, and separately for the final destination.

 

I have to say that planning one's trip using the car satnav is a pretty masochistic approach to a task that can be very enjoyable. Not only is the satnav not a particularly convenient tool for this kind of thing, but you need to actually be sat in the car to do it. Much as I love my Kona, I like to plan my trips sat in the comfort of my own home, and that makes so many more, and more useful, tools available to you - ZapMap and ABRP are the obvious ones, but there are any number of other route-planning maps for EVs, as well as, for example, apps to let you look at hotels and other tourist information whilst doing your planning!

So I plan my route on my laptop's decent-sized screen, using (in my case) Apple Maps, though other mapping tools are available! Getting the route into the car's satnav is just the last step, and a pretty trivial one! The only sensible way to do this, as you imply, by entering all the waypoints through the BlueLink app. So, I may spend hours planning the route on a big screen using Apple Maps (because I use Macs and an iPhone, not PC and Android). I can then, for each waypoint - whether found using a postcode, an address, or just selecting a point on the map! - copy its location to the clipboard on my Mac, and (using Apple's shared clipboard facility) paste it into the BlueLink app on my iPhone. Then all I need to do whilst actually sat in the car is string the waypoints together into a route.

Now, I assume that there are similar facilities available to Google fans (but - not being one! - I don't know for sure). However, on the assumption that there are (and other comments in this thread would seem to confirm that) why would you want to make your life so much more difficult by using the car's satnav for a task it was never designed to do?